17 yr Jakob Ingebrigtsen closes in 55, runs 3:39 & LRC goes nuts. 17 yr George Manangoi closes in 55, runs 3:35 and silence

El Keniano wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Exactly, and his peak year will be 19 right before they start testing him.

Hi genius. All Kenyans born after the 1970s were probably born in hospital and have legit birth certificates. The days of being born in the verandah or next to the grain silo while mum was harvesting grain are over. Get over yourselves with your inadequate education system that makes you ignorant of lives in another countries.

Just like 29 year old Kenyans with grandchildren.

wejo wrote:

Last night 17 year old Jakob Ingebrigtsen of the great Ingebrigtsen (3 world class runners) running family closed in 55.23 to win the Stanford meet in 3:39.06. He rightfully got a lot of attention and discussion on here.

Today in Doha 17 year old George Manangoi of the great Manangoi running family (2 world class runners) closed in roughly 55.5 in a much faster 3:35.53 to race to get second. (If someone knows the FAT split let us know) and it's barely gotten any discussion. Unfair? Racist? Or totally fair because of the age cheating in the past in Kenya?

http://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Screenshot-2018-05-04-at-12.07.26.png

Its because George is not 17. He may be a Kenyan 17, but he is more than likely an international 21-25.

You know what's great about all this? George doesn't even consider Jakob his competition. It's Justus Soget.

We'll put this to rest like we did in the Chespol thread. A pictures of old man George.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/George+Meitamei+Manangoi+IAAF+U18+World+Championships+359CNOSZm3xl.jpg

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/files/2017/07/George-Manangoi-smiles-Caps.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/George+Meitamei+Manangoi+IAAF+U18+World+Championships+wRq4nOINEl0l.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/george-meitamei-manangoi-of-kenya-celebrates-winning-gold-in-the-of-picture-id814492386?s=612x612

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https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/files/2017/07/Kipchoge-Keino-handsover-Go.jpg

Maasai warrior

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El Keniano wrote:

Justus Soget.

Manager = Frederico Rosa

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Justus Soget.

Manager = Frederico Rosa

Justus Soget = High school kid.

I think you're wrong. The Ingebrigtsens go all in for the 1500m, same with Jakob. Hes as fast as Filip, you the guy with a WC bronze in the 1500m, and are catching up on him and Henriks times.

afaffaa wrote:

I would say no. I rank Henrik higher than the older Manangoi. While Manangoi is a 1500 specialist, his 3.28 is not much better than 3.31. However, Henrik doesn't specialize in the 1500. He also does the 3000 & 5000, and as you can see with his recent 13:16 a couple of days ago, he is a world class 5000 meter runner as well. Manangoi is not there.

Henrik does specialize in the 1500. Problem is, last year he had to have a surgery on his hamstring, and its not yet fully recovered. Because of this he will take one year of 3000 and 5000m running until hes able to do the speed work necessary for the 1500m again.

3000 is a supplementary distance to the 1500m. All great 1500m runners can run a good time in the 3000, thats why Henrik has run this distance in indoor championships. He has always gone all in on the 1500m.

wejo wrote:

Last night 17 year old Jakob Ingebrigtsen of the great Ingebrigtsen (3 world class runners) running family closed in 55.23 to win the Stanford meet in 3:39.06. He rightfully got a lot of attention and discussion on here.

Today in Doha 17 year old George Manangoi of the great Manangoi running family (2 world class runners) closed in roughly 55.5 in a much faster 3:35.53 to race to get second. (If someone knows the FAT split let us know) and it's barely gotten any discussion. Unfair? Racist?

I think it is about long term planning and a superiour potential of Jakob.

Hehe. Prime example of how every year the anti-Jakob crowd must scream out in despair telling us someone from east Africa will have a brighter future than Jakob. That year it was George M. and Soget, and Kwemoi would end up better too, then it was Zakayo, now its Kiplimo I guess for the longer distances. They can't appreciate Jakob's accomplishments, they only know to attack him. Doesn't matter as Jakob already has millions of followers and is worth more than all of those guys put together.

At 21 years old, Noah Ngeny won the big one, beating el Guerrouj in 2000 Olympics 1500m final. John Walker at age 22 was 2nd, Christchurch, 1974 Common Wealth 1500m final. A year or two more of Jakob I. racing fast but finishing 2nd will eventually become boring.

El Keniano wrote:

You know what's great about all this? George doesn't even consider Jakob his competition. It's Justus Soget.

You’re right for once, it’s clear Jakob is on a completely different level than those two.

pot bellied pig wrote:

Hehe. Prime example of how every year the anti-Jakob crowd must scream out in despair telling us someone from east Africa will have a brighter future than Jakob. That year it was George M. and Soget, and Kwemoi would end up better too, then it was Zakayo, now its Kiplimo I guess for the longer distances. They can't appreciate Jakob's accomplishments, they only know to attack him. Doesn't matter as Jakob already has millions of followers and is worth more than all of those guys put together.

Jakob is indeed way ahead of his counterparts born in the 2000s at 1500m. Jakob ranks 8th all time to George being ranked 87th. Nobody else born in the 2000s are in the all time top 100.

However he his 3rd behind Barega and Kiplimo in the 5000m. Barega 5th and Kiplimo 12th all time. Jakob is “only” 124th.

I think the Gjert camp said that for Jakob the focus would be to get faster in the 1500 for the next couple of years then focus more on the 5000. This is is why they have him race fast 3000s sparingly. There will probably a "shock" improvement for him in the 5000 just as there was in the 3000 a few days ago. Won't be as much as in the 3 but still, I think it will be a 10-15 second improvement at the least. I would really rather have Jakob try and go down another 1-2 seconds in the 1500. That's the distance I love watching most in racing.

vgyvuyuggu wrote:

"Jakob is indeed way ahead of his counterparts born in the 2000s at 1500m. Jakob ranks 8th all time to George being ranked 87th. Nobody else born in the 2000s are in the all time top 100.

However he his 3rd behind Barega and Kiplimo in the 5000m. Barega 5th and Kiplimo 12th all time. Jakob is “only” 124th."

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It should now be clear to eveyone that Jakob has the potential to run at least 12:47 in the 5000m first time he joins a fast wellpaced race. That is what his 1500m and 3000m times indicate! (the 1500m time indicates 12:45; the 3000m time 12:47).

So Jakob will possibly soon go into top ten in the 5000m also.