Thanks, REPUBLICANS, for destroying the internet

Then you're lazy. This is a forum for discourse. And btw, I'm not a raving net neutrality drone. I just want to hear a decent argument.

Alt Right All Night wrote:

And don't say, "You'll have more choices," because the way I see it shaping up, it'll be a variety of bad choices, each worse than what we have now.

If you like your doctor, ...

The party of Rape Kids, Kill Kids, Kill Elderly, Distribute Oxy, and Steal For The Wealthy is at it again.

lax wrote:

Then you're lazy. This is a forum for discourse. And btw, I'm not a raving net neutrality drone. I just want to hear a decent argument.

Have you tried reading the thread? I admit there's a bunch of OP-style gibberish, but there's plenty of decent arguments.

Beautiful Day wrote:

The party of Rape Kids, Kill Kids, Kill Elderly, Distribute Oxy, and Steal For The Wealthy is at it again.

And you wonder why no one takes Left/MSM rhetoric seriously anymore?

lax wrote:

Then you're lazy. This is a forum for discourse. And btw, I'm not a raving net neutrality drone. I just want to hear a decent argument.

ICYMI:

Alt Right All Night wrote:

Wow, the Team Alt Right talking point guys are out in force on this one. Repeal of net neutrality is a good thing for the average internet user and content provider? Really? Seriously? The FCC, Republican leadership, and big ISP providers don't even try to make that case. Tell me how in a year or five years my service is going to be better. And don't say, "You'll have more choices," because the way I see it shaping up, it'll be a variety of bad choices, each worse than what we have now.

Maybe it isn't all about you. It is ok for other people to benefit from legislation and you not benefit. Stop being so selfish and self-centered.

RE: Thanks, REPUBLICANS, for destroying the internet

You're welcome. I'm happy to destroy YOUR Internet [experience] for the overall benefit of others.

Actual reader of LRC threads wrote:

lax wrote:

Then you're lazy. This is a forum for discourse. And btw, I'm not a raving net neutrality drone. I just want to hear a decent argument.

ICYMI:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3049371

That's a great link. Thank you.

lax wrote:

Then you're lazy. This is a forum for discourse. And btw, I'm not a raving net neutrality drone. I just want to hear a decent argument.

No, you are the lazy one. You have access to the Internet. Use it. My mobile device does not process websites very well and typing an essay on this small on-screen keyboard is not feasible.

I never said you were a "raving net neutrality drone" so I don't know why you are bringing that up.

You forgot White Supremacist & literally Hitler wrote:

Beautiful Day wrote:

The party of Rape Kids, Kill Kids, Kill Elderly, Distribute Oxy, and Steal For The Wealthy is at it again.

And you wonder why no one takes Left/MSM rhetoric seriously anymore?

He forgot that Vladimir Putin actually pays us to post here.

Just as bad elsewhere wrote:

Thousand markets bloom wrote:

Aren't they Other Countries or something who have experience with this Brave New World of Wild West internet schemeing, that we can look to, to see how it will turn out?

Facebook’s Free Basics was banned from India in 2016 for violating net-neutrality rules, despite being used by millions of people.

Err, why can't Al Gore just build a new Internet, if Trump/REPUBLICANS took over the current one?

Thousand markets bloom wrote:

Aren't they Other Countries or something who have experience with this Brave New World of Wild West internet schemeing, that we can look to, to see how it will turn out?

Net Neutrality, Foreclosure and the Fast Lane: An empirical study of the UK (Laura Nurski, Tilburg)

Abstract: ... Discarding net neutrality will have two effects on consumers: (i) consumers will reoptimize their choice of online content, at constant ISP choices; and (ii) consumers will reoptimize their choice of ISP. I empirically investigate whether an ISP has an incentive to break net neutrality, taking into account both channels of consumer response. I combine a novel data set on UK household content and ISP choices with data on ISP presence in local markets, as well as speeds and prices. Preliminary results indicate that a fast lane increases consumers’ surplus, industry revenues and advertising revenues. In contrast, foreclosure seems an unlikely scenario since it reduces the foreclosing ISP’s revenues from selling broadband by more than it can recuperate through advertising on online content.

Hardloper wrote:

You forgot White Supremacist & literally Hitler wrote:

And you wonder why no one takes Left/MSM rhetoric seriously anymore?

He forgot that Vladimir Putin actually pays us to post here.

You guys support Trump. And you want us to take you seriously?

True Liberty wrote:

This is always the ephemeral argument of those: "Can you show me something that wasn't invented due to the regulation?"

5G, the next generation of wireless technology, will allow significantly faster internet and spur further development of technological capabilities that turn former pipe dreams into tangible realities. But this will only occur if net neutrality rules are fully repealed as planned and broadband providers are permitted to expand and invest, including in remote, rural, low-income areas of the country

Of course, big city fat cats don't care about fly-over country with their weak wireless signals.

“In the long term, by lifting Title II and removing heavy-handed regulations that inject uncertainty into the market – such as a requirement to come to the FCC to ask permission to innovate – I expect to see more investment and innovation in the broadband industry.”"

Does no one remember Comcast throttling Netflix, or ATT blocking Facetime on their network, or any of the other examples? Yes, we're going back to that. This isn't a good thing for any consumer. Follow the money, it isn't rocket science.

Actual example wrote:

True Liberty wrote:

This is always the ephemeral argument of those: "Can you show me something that wasn't invented due to the regulation?"

5G, the next generation of wireless technology, will allow significantly faster internet and spur further development of technological capabilities that turn former pipe dreams into tangible realities. But this will only occur if net neutrality rules are fully repealed as planned and broadband providers are permitted to expand and invest, including in remote, rural, low-income areas of the country

Of course, big city fat cats don't care about fly-over country with their weak wireless signals.

“In the long term, by lifting Title II and removing heavy-handed regulations that inject uncertainty into the market – such as a requirement to come to the FCC to ask permission to innovate – I expect to see more investment and innovation in the broadband industry.”"

Bullsh1t. There is not a single thing stopping Time Warner from building out rural America. This is not "innovate," this is called business. Cellular 5G has nothing do with this. This is 100% about ISPs wanting their slice of the streaming pie.

What this law does is turn the internet into Spirit Airlines.

You pay for your ticket to get the minimum...a ticket to fly somewhere. Then your ISP can charge you to "check a bag," "carry on a bag," "upgrade your seat," etc, etc.

This works out for some people, but the large majority of passengers hate Spirit Airlines, and generally hate the way all airline carriers nickle and dime us.

A big difference is, there are a lot of different airlines. Not so with ISP's. How many ISPs do you have in your area? There are two available in my area. So, if Comcast and CenturyLink both come out with crappy packages, I'm stuck choosing between them.

There's no real competition to force ISP's to provide a palatable package.