Who has a better kick, Dathan or Lagat?!
Obviously Lagat's kick is way better. Listen to the commentators how they're giving it to Lagat because of his better kick,
NEVERTHELESS!!!
Dathan gets first and Lagat doesn't have any kick left in him although he pretty much keeps up with the pace, falling just a tiny bit behind. And WHY??? Because Dathan is in an overall better 10k shape!! The steady pace is to fast for Lagat!
You dig?
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
You dig?
cool, dude. You win. I give up.
Just continue to watch Ayana fade in the last 400m of a 5000m race...
There's a 3k and a 5k in the diamond league yet to run. We'll see about that
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
People here are so stupid thinking that having a good kick can bring you the first place if you just keep up with the leader who's kick is weaker than yours. By this rational Usain Bolt could break 2 hours in the marathon- all he has to do is keep up with Kipchoge's pace and then outkick him.
I've actually thought of this. My prediction Bolt will now turn to the marathon,
because all he has to do is to follow the leaders and then outkick them to the finish.
The prediction contest proves I'm right, because the same people who won the contest, are the same ones who won the contest!
Scorpian_jogger registered wrote:
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:People here are so stupid thinking that having a good kick can bring you the first place if you just keep up with the leader who's kick is weaker than yours. By this rational Usain Bolt could break 2 hours in the marathon- all he has to do is keep up with Kipchoge's pace and then outkick him.
I've actually thought of this. My prediction Bolt will now turn to the marathon,
because all he has to do is to follow the leaders and then outkick them to the finish.
It's not about just having a kick. It's about having fast distance ability and having a kick. It's about having both. Ayana only has one. She is a talented FAST distance runner, but if she is forced to win a race with her kick? She ain't going to win. SO SHE HAS TO GO OUT AT WORLD RECORD PACE. But that type of running will wear you out in the short run and long run.
Why do you think Molly Huddle went out fast as hell in the 5000m heat?
" I didn't trust my kick, so I didn't want to leave it to that. I felt my best chance of qualifying was going out fast to get the time or getting a top spot."
If she does not have a lead bigger than 30-40m with 800m to go, she is not going to win. So my point is, she ain't going to dominate 5000m, not with Obiri, Dibaba and Hassan in the mix.
Dibaba is faster and has a bigger kick than Obiri. Here's the 2015 World Champs 5000m with Dibaba and Ayana which conclusively proves my theory!
Ayana ran the last 6k of her 10000m final in 14:21.7, more than 13 seconds faster than Obiri ran in the 5k.
Obiri's strategy is to hope Ayana is tired, and that the pace is slow enough to hang on.
Obiri said she was ready to hang with Ayana even at world record pace. I don't think she'd talk like that if she couldn't.
Ayana and Dibaba in 3000m
Dibaba has no kick left in her due to Ayana fast pace.
Another one:
https://youtu.be/lOJ9gw0YonEIf Ayana runs fast enough no sit and kicker could match her
You only post stuff to support your narrative
Post the other 5000m race from that same year with Dibaba, where Dibaba smoked her
Point blank - Obiri is the world champion at 5000m and Viv is the Olympian champ at 5000m.
Nothing to see here.
scorpion_runner wrote:
El Keniano wrote:. But no. Vivian gave Hellen Ayana's formula.
that, too!
But remember this: Obiri just did that. Pretty copied it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugq0axpuhY
Hahaha! Genzebe looks like she just stole Popeyes chicken from Ayana!
scorpion_runner wrote:
Scorpian_jogger registered wrote:I've actually thought of this. My prediction Bolt will now turn to the marathon,
because all he has to do is to follow the leaders and then outkick them to the finish.
It's not about just having a kick. It's about having fast distance ability and having a kick. It's about having both. Ayana only has one. She is a talented FAST distance runner, but if she is forced to win a race with her kick? She ain't going to win. SO SHE HAS TO GO OUT AT WORLD RECORD PACE. But that type of running will wear you out in the short run and long run.
Why do you think Molly Huddle went out fast as hell in the 5000m heat?
" I didn't trust my kick, so I didn't want to leave it to that. I felt my best chance of qualifying was going out fast to get the time or getting a top spot."
If she does not have a lead bigger than 30-40m with 800m to go, she is not going to win. So my point is, she ain't going to dominate 5000m, not with Obiri, Dibaba and Hassan in the mix.
Apart from Obiri, Dibaba and *Hassan, don't forget the golden girl Faith Kipyegon who will be chasing some quick times in the 5000m next year in readiness for a double in 2019. Kipyegon has already run the distance twice and recorded 14:31.95 in her debut two years ago, which, if I am not mistaken, is the fastest debuts in history. Incidentally, Obiri's own debut last year was 14:32.02 and which should rank as the second fastest debut in history. Kipyegon is believed to have better talent than Obiri and by 2020, she will be the owner of the 5000m world record in under 14 mins.
Ayana was the clear favorite in the 10000m and Obiri was the clear favorite in the 5000m. If any of you didn't know that, just follow the sport more closely. This thread is silly.