Evan Jager responds!

FWIW, I've been drug tested 5x or so including 1-2 where I found out hours before and had to do it at 6am.

I've never written ANY drug test in my log bc they were formalities to me.

Granted, as I said before, I'm willing to believe Jager is as clean or as dirty as the next "likely doper."

But certainly, I wouldn't call him not writing down a drug test a red flag.

I have to wonder if Wejo would've even bothered trying to dismiss the source if it only had the hated Kenyans in it and not included the golden boy of US distance running. Extremely difficult to exonerate one person whilst condemning others for appearing on the exact same list especially given that it is Evan Jager (like Mo Farah and Galen Rupp) who has been tagged as "likely doping" unlike the other big names currently competing - Asbel Kiprop, Mary Keitany, Sifan Hassan- who only have one reading of "suspicious". One is a conclusive accusation while the other requires further data.

Having said that, it is quite clear the motive of this leak is to tarnish athletes from other countries and make them appear as bad as the Russians. I happen to be a big Evan Jager fan and don't believe he's a doper. That the IAAF didn't sanction anyone on the list means they were probably cleared. But the blatant double standards displayed in reaction to this (admittedly dubious) leak is embarrassing - hypocritical even. Worse still because this is from a guy not averse to throwing out blanket accusations (see his "doping camp" piece on Sumgong implicating everyone that's lived or trained near her including the unaccused Stanley Biwott). Unfair.

Again, the question, how would you react if Jager hadn't been on the list?

El Keniano wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Really, given that he runs with and beats Kenyans that are likely doping. The man must either be Superman or a Superfraud.

Such an idiotic statement. But not surprising given the source.

Really, I think that you did not see the people that were obviously doping: Kiprop, S. Kiplagat, Keitany, etc top-tier Kenyans. Considering that the ABP is actually not designed to stop doping (or even catch anyone) but to minimize the volumes of PEDs being used. The big thing that I have taken out of this leak was that for the first time we have tangible evidence that elite Kenyans are on the sauce and we have names. If Jager can keep up in this rarefied air then some finger pointing is appropriate.

What about this?? wrote:

Agree. A clean guy with more talent should be able to run 9 sec faster 30 years later. You don't have to assume that doping was needed.

Its perfectly reasonable for another white American to run 9 sec faster 30 years later. But if a Moroccan, Kenyan or Ethiopian does it, we all know doping was needed.

cool kid wrote:

http://www.evanjager.com/news/2017/7/6/statement-regarding-fancy-bears-document

Well done press statement, sounds like he's trying to be proactive.

Not bad

This is a guy who accuses other athletes as dopers for being included in “Fancy Bears” reports… cynical.

He is a joke.

cynical+1 wrote:

cool kid wrote:http://www.evanjager.com/news/2017/7/6/statement-regarding-fancy-bears-document

Well done press statement, sounds like he's trying to be proactive.

Not bad

This is a guy who accuses other athletes as dopers for being included in “Fancy Bears” reports… cynical.

He is a joke.

If this is true, and Jäger is making those accusations, all I can say is that Karma is a bitch.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Really, I think that you did not see the people that were obviously doping: Kiprop, S. Kiplagat, Keitany, etc top-tier Kenyans. Considering that the ABP is actually not designed to stop doping (or even catch anyone) but to minimize the volumes of PEDs being used. The big thing that I have taken out of this leak was that for the first time we have tangible evidence that elite Kenyans are on the sauce and we have names. If Jager can keep up in this rarefied air then some finger pointing is appropriate.

Excellent point on the ABP.

psychologist and fan of sport wrote:

For some strange reason, I have sometimes thought about what I would say if I were accused of something I didn't do. And Jager's statement sounds a lot like what I imagined I would say. Simple, concise, nothing vague about it. I believe him.

+1

AScis wrote:

psychologist and fan of sport wrote:

For some strange reason, I have sometimes thought about what I would say if I were accused of something I didn't do. And Jager's statement sounds a lot like what I imagined I would say. Simple, concise, nothing vague about it. I believe him.

+1

+2. But enough with the double standards, please.

psychologist and fan of sport wrote:

For some strange reason, I have sometimes thought about what I would say if I were accused of something I didn't do. And Jager's statement sounds a lot like what I imagined I would say. Simple, concise, nothing vague about it. I believe him.

Well I do not believe you. Apropos of nothing in relation to Jager, you think about what you would say if you were falsely accused of WHAT? And WHY do you do this? This sounds absurd.

Peonies wrote:

psychologist and fan of sport wrote:

For some strange reason, I have sometimes thought about what I would say if I were accused of something I didn't do. And Jager's statement sounds a lot like what I imagined I would say. Simple, concise, nothing vague about it. I believe him.

Well I do not believe you. Apropos of nothing in relation to Jager, you think about what you would say if you were falsely accused of WHAT? And WHY do you do this? This sounds absurd.

Not all that absurd... Imagine if you were falsely accused of a serious crime.

You might know that you are innocent, but sometimes it's hard to prove it

This seems to be the case always https://youtu.be/Ud-q9lUbYsc

Really now? wrote:

Peonies wrote:

Well I do not believe you. Apropos of nothing in relation to Jager, you think about what you would say if you were falsely accused of WHAT? And WHY do you do this? This sounds absurd.

Not all that absurd... Imagine if you were falsely accused of a serious crime.

You might know that you are innocent, but sometimes it's hard to prove it

Why would one prepare a response for this imaginary event? Absurd.

I have statements prepared for if I am accused of tax fraud, drug cheating, murder etc.

One can never be too careful.

afromanmiler wrote:

I want to believe him so bad... but being training partners with Solinsky for so long makes its sooo hard.

There is NO away, even ythough I LOVE THE FLOBROS commentating that Payton Jordan 10k... there is no way Solinsky ran 26:59 clean. No way. No one believes it. Nothing he has done backs it up. It just adds fuel to this current Jager Bomb in my mind...

+1

+1

Passport era wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Considering that the ABP is actually not designed to stop doping (or even catch anyone) but to minimize the volumes of PEDs being used.

Excellent point on the ABP.

+1

No one knows anything about what someone else is taking. I was on birth control for my entire college career and 4 years of post collegiate running. My parents, coaches and even by had no idea.

The point is that just because we think we know Jäger, we don't.

Sir Lancelot wrote:

Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete ever and never failed a drug test while he was riding.

this is not correct. He did test positive for corticosteroids at the Tour (1999, IIRC) but produced the backdated TUE to explain it away.

Same drug as Wiggins was using via TUE.