Brodey Hasty will be back!

Big Time, please get the facts straight. It would be wrong, if it happened like you said. However, he was a private coach, only, for several years. they kept asking him to be a school coach and he kept declining. Finally, he did sign on as an unpaid volunteer. The county and the school did not inform him of the district policy regarding not receiving payment, other than from the district, for kids he was coaching on the team. He had established client relationships, prior to signing on as a school coach. The school screwed up, not Avery.

You are so dumb. The volunteer form just means he understands that he will not receive payment from the district in his role as a volunteer coach. In other words, he understands what a volunteer means. He is not agreeing to not get paid from private clients. If the volunteer form was meant to be one that was disclosing policy, then other employee forms would include the same disclosure. they do not. Honestly, dealing with these uninformed comments is like taking candy from a baby...a really dumb baby.

BS buster wrote:

I like it. Brad vroon here. It's a great discussion. I am not sure that you can mention my kids name, but my attorney is looking in to that. There is a lot of material here and I am not hiding behind some user name or anonymous handle. I stand up to the task and I can tell you exactly what happened. For now, let's leave kids names out of this. This was not about a race in New York or times for a DMR. This was about a high school program and who controlled it. Please delete the posts with my sons name on it. Thanks

You were ok with how things were for a few years though., right? No complaints until ???

Fact: AD knew he was a private coach of a bunch of Brentwood athletes

Fact: AD asked him to be a school coach and did disclose the district compensation policy.

Fact: No document exists that shows Avery was ever told about the two policies they claim he violated.

Fact: AD and Principal knew they were not supposed to let Avery and Kinder use the track as a for-profit

Fact: The AD ignored the policies he knew and let Avery use the track, against policy

Question:

Where is AD/Head Track Coach now?

Funny, you are making Guy Avery sound like a dumb baby. He knew what he was signing and knew what the rules were.

Funny, you are making Guy Avery sound like a dumb baby. He knew what he was signing and knew what the rules were. He just thought he was above those rules because the AD always turned a blind eye.

Little Cur,

When you sign on at almost any job, whether paid or volunteer, you receive an employee handbook and sign that you receive it. My first job at 15 at a movie theatre with 4 other employees even had one. (It was essentially a two page typed word document that defined what being late or absent was, when my schedule would be out, and when I would be paid). My nonpaid college internship has me sign that, along with an NDA. Once he signed that, accepting payment from a student at Brentwood HS put him in violation. End of story. If he didn't receive the handbook, he shouldn't have signed it. If he made a verbal agreement with the AD that he could get paid contrary to the employee handbook, he should have gotten that in writing. Additionally, I get that he was a private coach before, but he gained new Brentwood HS athletes while being the volunteer coach. That is wrong and a conflict of interest. It would be like me volunteering at a food shelter and then saying I can give you one scoop here until noon, but let's meet back here and I will serve you more for a money at 12:15. Avery probably isn't a bad guy, but he got caught violating the terms of his agreement with Brentwood HS. Time for him to move on. He's gotten a ton of publicity from this and I am sure will have many of people reaching out to him for private coaching lessons.

Always receive?? No, not always. That is a huge presumption. I'm glad that in your experience it has always been that way.

I've volunteered and worked throughout my lifetime and I didn't always receive a handbook. Such BS.

The problem with your theory is that the form signed had nothing to do with the handbook, and the handbook was never provided. No policies were disclosed. The volunteer for does not reference a policy or handbook. You also assume a conflict of interest actually exists, but that is more theory than reality. But, it would be easy to argue that no conflict if interest exists.

Exactly

Argue away, it doesn't matter. The Brentwood High distance team isn't drinking the Kool-Aid anymore :) Gigs up.

This thread has become the most entertaining thing since Mike Rossi...

Everyone keeps talking about "he didn't know he was breaking the rules," as if ignorance of the rules is some kind of free pass from them. "I didn't know the meth lab was illegal, but now that I do...." Give me a break. Does WCS not have mandatory coaches' meetings where things of this nature are discussed? Even if they don't ignorance of the law/rule is not an excuse.

TEACHER, if you are going to take a stance that ignorance is not an excuse, then apply that to the Principal, Kevin Keidel, and the Athletic Director, Ron Seigenthaler. Both claim they, themselves, were ignorant of the rules regarding compensation. So, if both of those, whose job it is to know the rules, did not know the rules, they are much more responsible than Avery, who relied on them to convey the rules. However, Avery has been the one who has been held responsible from the district, rather than where it should have been, square on the shoulders of Keidel and Seigenthaler.

Furthermore, they both knew the rule disallowing private coaches from using the track. They allowed it, even knowing the rule. That is insubordination. But instead of blaming them, the district wrongly placed the blame on Avery.

Little Cur wrote:

TEACHER, if you are going to take a stance that ignorance is not an excuse, then apply that to the Principal, Kevin Keidel, and the Athletic Director, Ron Seigenthaler. Both claim they, themselves, were ignorant of the rules regarding compensation. So, if both of those, whose job it is to know the rules, did not know the rules, they are much more responsible than Avery, who relied on them to convey the rules. However, Avery has been the one who has been held responsible from the district, rather than where it should have been, square on the shoulders of Keidel and Seigenthaler.

Furthermore, they both knew the rule disallowing private coaches from using the track. They allowed it, even knowing the rule. That is insubordination. But instead of blaming them, the district wrongly placed the blame on Avery.

I am no fan of Avery or of the way the Brentwood program has been run, but I agree with this. Ultimately, this is on the admin. And the fact that TSSAA knew about it for years and accepted it.

Can we please change this thread so it's not about Brodey, who is a great talent and a class act?

Little Cur wrote:

You are the dumb one. He signed up to volunteer and that is all the form basically says; he agrees to volunteer. Only an idiot reads more into that. It does not make him fully informed. Regardless, he is glad to be gone. He had more clients when he was not a volunteer at BHS. Win/win.

An idiot would be someone getting into pissing contests on the internet while leaving his work email. Does your employer have the same view as you since you're leaving your company email? I'll be sure ask.

Michael Sandifer wrote:

And that is great. Their varsity will comprise of JV caliber runners, and will suck, while the good runners will compete elsewhere.

With an attitude like that, it's a good thing you are removed from the program. Your frequent posting shows you're an all-about me diva and are becoming way too obsessed over some teenagers running around in circles.

And we'll see who is running faster in college, since Avery's guys usually become slower or leave the sport. Don't believe me? Start plugging names into TFRRS.

How did the multis coach escape unscathed?