Why is Mo Farah lying so much about Jama Aden??

Mope Dealer wrote:

This is correct, but theoretically Mo's mile equivalent or 2000m should be quicker the Geb's based on his 1500m pb but at every other distance Geb is better.

Let's put his 3:28 pb into context, that is quicker that Centro, Willis, Coe, Ovett, Cram all Olympic medalists over 1500m in modern times and countless Kenyans. An unreal time for an event he doesn't train for and has rarely run.

Adding in that he was 30 when he ran his 3.28.

At 25, his PB had been 3.39. A nice 5% improvement as he moved away from his peak years

Farah is a brilliant example of the hypocrisy of UK and USA media and fans. If he was in a Russian/Algerian/Moroccan/Spanish singlet then he would be accused of stealing medals from clean athletes. .

MoMoMoMoMo wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

This is correct, but theoretically Mo's mile equivalent or 2000m should be quicker the Geb's based on his 1500m pb but at every other distance Geb is better.

Let's put his 3:28 pb into context, that is quicker that Centro, Willis, Coe, Ovett, Cram all Olympic medalists over 1500m in modern times and countless Kenyans. An unreal time for an event he doesn't train for and has rarely run.

Adding in that he was 30 when he ran his 3.28.

At 25, his PB had been 3.39. A nice 5% improvement as he moved away from his peak years

Farah is a brilliant example of the hypocrisy of UK and USA media and fans. If he was in a Russian/Algerian/Moroccan/Spanish singlet then he would be accused of stealing medals from clean athletes. .

Yeah, rank hypocricy there is really no difference between him and Makhloufi.

I accidentally flicked on RT about a month ago (I was looking for a business channel to check the exchange rate) and basically from what I gathered from Putin and their officials they were cheating because they needed too to be on a level playing field with the corrupt officialofficials in US, UK and Jamaica. Whilst it is pretty much a lame excuse, it's quite funny looking at it from the opposite perspective.

What a 11s pb in his thirties, an 80m improvement, that's not suspicious for an elite athlete, just lots of press-ups and a stint in Sabadell and anyone can achieve the same results.😄

Mope Dealer wrote:

just lots of press-ups and a stint in Sabadell and anyone can achieve the same results.😄

I;m Irish and i remember when Cathal Lombard (different planet to Farah in terms of ability/level but arguably similar improvements in performance) came out smashing Irish records.

He came out with the same rhetoric - "it's due to stretching and bounding and exercises".

The Overexplainer wrote:

doot doot wrote:

Does anyone know of any athletes with a similar performance trajectory to that of Farah?

Where they were ok-ish, but then had a literally unprecedent, meteoric rise to dominance (or even just huge PR gains at the elite level) in their very late 20s?

Has anyone similarly seen such great improvement that late?

Obviously Allah broke the mold with Farah, but I'm curious about similar "talents." 😂

If his "meteoric rise to dominance" was "unprecedented", how could "anyone know of any athletes with a similar performance trajectory to that of Farah?"

Do you know what "unprecedented" means?

Explain how mine is anything other than a loaded question?

Are you new here?

Tired of losing wrote:

http://youtu.be/---LOIB8idE

2009. Watch Farah absolutely crash and burn on last lap. He drops 5 spots in last 300m.

This was 2009. Farah is 25 and should be his best. Tegenkamp is one year older than Farah there. Teg is now 34 and retired. He watches a guy who he used to drop win everything at 33. Absolute PEDs.

It's interesting how people see things differently. I watched this and thought it is not unreasonable to believe that with more application and a proper S&C programme that he could make the leap to win races like this.

MoMoMoMoMo wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

just lots of press-ups and a stint in Sabadell and anyone can achieve the same results.😄

I;m Irish and i remember when Cathal Lombard (different planet to Farah in terms of ability/level but arguably similar improvements in performance) came out smashing Irish records.

He came out with the same rhetoric - "it's due to stretching and bounding and exercises".

There is also Dieter Baumann with a 12:54.70 5K PR in 1997, which is still the fastest time by a runner of non-African descent (go rojo!).

Dieter "Doper" Baumann is still faster than Galen Rupp at 5k.

Dieter Baumann tested positive in 1999 for the anabolic steroid nandrolone, which resulted in a 2 year ban from the IAAF.

Dieter said his toothpaste was contaminated with the anabolic steroid. Yes. That is a good explanation. The German Athletics Federation believed Mr. Baumann, and accepted his explanation at the time.

Some people here still like to use Dieter as an example of how fast non-Africans can run. Dieter Baumann is probably still a hero in Germany.

What a joke.

rjm33 wrote:

Dieter said his toothpaste was contaminated with the anabolic steroid. Yes. That is a good explanation. The German Athletics Federation believed Mr. Baumann, and accepted his explanation at the time.

Some people here still like to use Dieter as an example of how fast non-Africans can run. Dieter Baumann is probably still a hero in Germany.

What a joke.

Dieter and his toothpaste is my second favorite one.

Yet to test positive but Valerie Straneo saying that her jump from weak club runner to world medalist in her 30s was due to getting her spleen removed is my favorite.

doot doot.

Do you think that the actual "clean" world records in the 5k and 10k are held by…Emil Zatopek?

No. I am sorry. That is not even close.

Tyler Hamilton's explanation for why he had blood from 2 people in his bloodstream (heterologous blood transfusion with blood from another person) on a blood test... was that he was a human chimera with a vanishing twin. The vanishing twin was the explanation for blood from another person in his bloodstream.

I think Tyler wins the award for the funniest doping excuse ever.

OK?

Yeah, Tyler FTW, no doubt.

Maybe you can explain this joke?

doot doot wrote:

[quote]Tactical Chunder wrote:

Mo Farah = greatest long distance track racer ever.

4 Golds.

Does anyone know of any athletes with a similar performance trajectory to that of Farah?

Where they were ok-ish, but then had a literally unprecedent, meteoric rise to dominance (or even just huge PR gains at the elite level) in their very late 20s?

Has anyone similarly seen such great improvement that late?

Obviously Allah broke the mold with Farah, but I'm curious about similar "talents." Carlos lopes

the best excuse ever was the Spanish lady who claimed she tested positive after running through a puddle of water contaminated with EPO

Mope Dealer wrote:

Let's put his 3:28 pb into context, that is quicker that Centro, Willis, Coe, Ovett, Cram all Olympic medalists over 1500m in modern times and countless Kenyans. An unreal time for an event he doesn't train for and has rarely run.

Ever heard of Noureddine Morceli? Noah Ngeny, Bernard Lagat, Hicham El Guerrouj? Makhloufi, Iguider, Kiplagat (WC)?

3:28.81 is a great PB, but still behind Gebrselassie's PBs over 3000m, 5000m, 10000m and probably also Marathon. And was achieved in Monaco, which at least seems to be little bit dubious.

After the darker days of this year and last for the IAAF and IOC, there is a brighter narrative in T&F now, with the IOC + IAAF, ably assisted by the media, nudging us into a new, 'feel good' state of mind about T&F, the point end of which is the re-enforcement of the belief that the clean athlete (usually a media-friendly 'saviour of athletics' type) will ultimately destroy the dirty doper. Just like Rocky whooped Drago.

Men's 100M/200M? Check.

Men's 400M? Check.

Men's 5000M/10000M? Check.

Rio 2016 will be remembered as the games when the good clean natural talent beat the dopers (suspected or proven) and put T&F firmly back on the road to redemption.

MoMoMoMoMo wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

just lots of press-ups and a stint in Sabadell and anyone can achieve the same results.😄

I;m Irish and i remember when Cathal Lombard (different planet to Farah in terms of ability/level but arguably similar improvements in performance) came out smashing Irish records.

He came out with the same rhetoric - "it's due to stretching and bounding and exercises".

I think I remember this guy, classic "stretching and bounding"

Mo Farah couldn't do 1 Pressup before Alberto coached him

Toothpaste that's classic, what about Lashawn Merritt's excuse! Or Contador's steak.

I just googled Chris Hoy drugs etc and some cycling equivalent of this site was chatting about how Chris Hoy miraculously got such humongous quads, one poster was saying that the 1990s steroids like Nandrolone help build bigger leg muscles but is easily found in tests. UK newspapers also believe he is clean, because he's British a bit like Mo.

MoMoMoMoMo wrote:

rjm33 wrote:

Dieter said his toothpaste was contaminated with the anabolic steroid. Yes. That is a good explanation. The German Athletics Federation believed Mr. Baumann, and accepted his explanation at the time.

Some people here still like to use Dieter as an example of how fast non-Africans can run. Dieter Baumann is probably still a hero in Germany.

What a joke.

Dieter and his toothpaste is my second favorite one.

Yet to test positive but Valerie Straneo saying that her jump from weak club runner to world medalist in her 30s was due to getting her spleen removed is my favorite.

Spleen removed, man I'm crying with laughter.😂