I just posted the link. Not sure what you mean by Coevett but I am not that poster. He even all-caps for emphasis.
Here is the quote from the link, post #162:
1) I never said EPO doesn't work with Kenyan. A not trained Kenyan is a not trained athlete, and a weak Kenyan is a weak athlete. I wrote this many many times, you know but continue to use everything lieing about what I said. I SAID EPO DOESN'T WORK WITH KENYANS AND ETHIOPIANS BORN, LIVING AND TRAINING IN HIGH ALTITUDE, of course if their training is the best possible as volume and intensity (something nor you, and nor the researchers, know, also by far). After what Sondre Moen and Julien Wanders were able to do, I changed my assertion, explaining that EPO DOESN'T WORK WITH ATHLETES WITH BIG TALENT LIVING AND TRAINING IN ALTITUDE WITH CONTINUITY, no matter if are Kenyans, Ugandans, Ethiopians, Norwegians or from Switzerland. This means that I'm not a supporter of "superior talent" of African, in general, but of "the level of aerobic talent of the athletes", that can bring the athlete himself to reach top results in clean way if decides to live and train in altitude in proper way.
Your claim was, Canova has said EPO doesn't help Kenyan runners living at altitude.
But you quote something different: perfectly trained.
And I still think you are Coevett, which I can't know.
From the expert scientists at Wada, EPO and doping in use, not going away, and ABP cannot pick up microdosing. Other limitations to testing are short detection windows, inability to pick up substances the tests are not specifically designed for.
They are basically hoping it is a deterrent and that athletes will use less ...
Aikin acknowledged the issues but presented the argument that although the passport couldn't detect micro-dosing, it could at least lower the doses athletes could potentially use,
"It sucks to watch a championship race and immediately think "that's BS", but that's exactly what I felt after that performance." yep, and those 32 year old sprinters...running sub 10 sec.
I just posted the link. Not sure what you mean by Coevett but I am not that poster. He even all-caps for emphasis.
Here is the quote from the link, post #162:
1) I never said EPO doesn't work with Kenyan. A not trained Kenyan is a not trained athlete, and a weak Kenyan is a weak athlete. I wrote this many many times, you know but continue to use everything lieing about what I said. I SAID EPO DOESN'T WORK WITH KENYANS AND ETHIOPIANS BORN, LIVING AND TRAINING IN HIGH ALTITUDE, of course if their training is the best possible as volume and intensity (something nor you, and nor the researchers, know, also by far). After what Sondre Moen and Julien Wanders were able to do, I changed my assertion, explaining that EPO DOESN'T WORK WITH ATHLETES WITH BIG TALENT LIVING AND TRAINING IN ALTITUDE WITH CONTINUITY, no matter if are Kenyans, Ugandans, Ethiopians, Norwegians or from Switzerland. This means that I'm not a supporter of "superior talent" of African, in general, but of "the level of aerobic talent of the athletes", that can bring the athlete himself to reach top results in clean way if decides to live and train in altitude in proper way.
Your claim was, Canova has said EPO doesn't help Kenyan runners living at altitude.
But you quote something different: perfectly trained.
And I still think you are Coevett, which I can't know.
Ok, I'll play.
He claims that EPO doesn't help 'perfectly trained' runners who are born and raised at altitude. Still ridiculous.
Nope, not Coevett. Just a fan tired of seeing track in field become the WWE of the sports world.
This is yet another extremely bigoted abusive thread attacking a top woman runner, because of her nationality and ethnicity, nothing to do with any evidence other than she has always tested clean, so why the constant abusive attacks on this website???
Abusive posters should be banned from posting and the threads removed, but this goes way beyond that.
The policies of this website are wrongly designed to encourage such abuse, and they need to be changed.
Plus this topic is about drugs, not running, and should have been placed in a drug forum, not on a RUNNING forum.
Please grow up and focus this website on running, not on destroying the sport of athletics, which is what you are doing by encouraging the abuse.
Congrats on doping at 19... Do letsrun people know that you can dope as a junior. There are hundreds of teens in the US using steroids just to lift heavier weights and look bigger.
They can get HGH too...seen this at the college level....2017
If we are judging clean or not based on how pleasant one is, I would have never guessed Tyson Gay would be popped. He seemed like the nicest, most humble top level sprinter in the world.
I don’t know if she’s doping or not. But I was a bit surprised of the comparison the other athletes’ reactions vs when Dibaba ran the WR.
Is it because they thought Dibaba was doped or just not a friendly competitor?
Speculating who’s clean or dirty really takes the fun out of track and field.
Diababa was doped as evidence by her immediate drop off in performance when her coach or agent was banned for PEDs. Other athletes knew this.
I'm really tired to see people accusing of doping athletes they never personally met.
I stopped reading right there.
Absolutely laughable!
Canova you are, as they say, “comedy gold”.😂
Wow, what a disrespectful comment, Sprintgeezer! Even if you don't believe athletes are clean, Renato is not "comedy gold." He only tells you what he sees and knows. What are your experiences? Please tells us.
The words above look exactly similar to how Professor Renato Canova writes, including the characteristic grammar errors. Bizarre to witness the professor using an alias.
You are right. Those words look exactly like how Canova writes. In fact, they come from a post written by Canova, posting as Canova.
If you click the link Cleansportfan mentions, it takes you to a post by Canova.
Oops, my bad, and apologies for rushing to conclusions without looking at the source properly. Thank you. In defense of Professor Canova, I don’t think he would ever post under an alias as he has too much integrity for that.
What he sees and knows? The entire Kenyan running establishment has proven to be a prd-addled disgrace and people are still going with the "but people like her" likeability defense. You don't break the 1500m record without significant doping. It is not physically possible, and everyone on here knows it. Factoring in pacers, wavelights, shoes, and the idea that this was clean is laughable. Look at that all-time list. Let it sink in. So she obliterated times run by athletes on state sponsored, industrial strength doping programs clean? Please don't embarrass yourselves any further. If it does not matter, which is what cycling fans decided in continuing to follow the sport, fine. But don't try to gaslight with your pitiful arguments.
