ALBERTO RELEASES STATEMENT

I think Alberto is dirty/evil, but damn did he just ether Steve Magness....

But, if you are going to perfect a microdosing program, you certainly would not be emailing a doctor about it and save those emails for all to see. You would do everything 100% underground and destroy everything. Plus, the experiments were limited to single doses and did not go as far as looking at what would happen if they did a second dose at a later date. I guess they could rub on a tiny bit of androgel before a race, but would that even do anything?

I read the whole thing...solid argument. This is well documented and seems much more substantial than the allegations, which seemed to be a bunch of hearsay and rumor. I also think this explains the 15 day wait, and why Epstein did not get this sort of detail before publishing.

My major thought is--we all need to lay off Galen. This is a witch hunt.

My questions are: what there something magical about TUES prior to 2010?...And why did Magness get fired?

HRE wrote:

I do think it's sad that so many people who worked with Alberto seem to dislike and disrespect him enough to make these sorts of statements, especially if the statements are false.

I think this is a good point. All along I have questioned guilt, but not questioned whether or not Alberto can be a real d*ickhead.

HRE wrote:

It really still comes down to whom you want to believe.

An oversimplification. Salazar provides evidence (emails, doctor's statements) that directly refutes accusations in the article.

In having participated in and followed this sport for decades, and reading everything related to this matter, If I was a judge in this case, I would find AlSal 'not guilty.' While I certainly harbor some concerns about the relationships he had with his athletes, the evidence doesn't rise to level such that he is guilty of anything more than poor judgment. The idea that the OP success is founded in intentional use of banned substances simply has not been proven. Clearly Magness had a grudge and AG likely had concerns that Kara and AlSal were more than just coach/athlete. I can understand why they made the allegations, but at least at this point, they don't appear to have been sufficiently proven and are little more than hate-spewn products of disgruntled past athletes and associates.

To me, being quiet about something wrong is lying. If they really did see cheating and chose to be quiet then they participated in cheating. Horrible behavior by those who waitednyears or even decades to come forward. Your credibility is zilch.

oldlegs wrote:

I read the whole thing...solid argument. This is well documented and seems much more substantial than the allegations, which seemed to be a bunch of hearsay and rumor. I also think this explains the 15 day wait, and why Epstein did not get this sort of detail before publishing.

My major thought is--we all need to lay off Galen. This is a witch hunt.

My questions are: what there something magical about TUES prior to 2010?...And why did Magness get fired?

you obviously did not read very carefully. He says magness was in a relationship with one of the athletes (not mentioned, but everyone knows it was areson) and doted on her, and could not establish a rapport with the top athletes to the point that they refused to train with him.

Just finished reading his statement. Incredible detail and documentation. I'm happy! On to USAs!

Because Magness is a lying bum, a coward and a baby. Could not take getting fired because he was unable to succeed with his career path - how can you have a dream job and fail at it - freakin loser and so now he has to try to damage Alberto's reputation

You have been exposed for the failure that you are Magness - good luck defending that!

oldlegs wrote:

My questions are: what there something magical about TUES prior to 2010?...And why did Magness get fired?

I'm not sure about your first question. But the 2nd question he answers in his letter. He got fired because he wasn't a good enough coach (had no rapport with the athletes) and had an affair with one of the athletes.

Bro - Mama wrote:

You were more than willing to trust the other side, simply based on your hate for the Oregon project.

Everyone asked for a response.

Alberto gave a response.

He documents events and issues that are in question.

Now, haters criticize his response, saying we can't trust him.

There were more than enough questions and gray areas in the accusatory article, but they get a pass.

BTW... NOBODY outside the small, self-centered world of running even cares about this.

I hate the NOP? Because, of course, I'm a bitter loser. Lance Armstrong's faithful over-used this personal attack for years. Good thing to see it hasn't been worn out. Oh, wait, yes it has.

His document's summary claim of not doping because he follows the rules doesn't mean he's not doping. It only means he's taking advantage of the loopholes offered. And there are many, including Androgel use and IVs.

Has Androgel Salazar been known to publish less than truthful claims in the past? Yes. His history in the sport is well documented.

Over time, a number of his rebuttals will be uncovered as false. He couldn't even bother to keep the supplements claims consistent in his rebuttal.

If only he chose transparency and honesty. There would be a different coach at Nike, that's for sure.

row row rowbury your boat wrote:

agip wrote:

most of it is just he said/she said

unlikely to change many opinions

Hilarious! You and many others on this thread! This is NOT "he said/she said" anymore. Alberto literally provided email evidence to REFUTE prior claims. He literally explained most of what has been claimed against him. That is not him simply calling everyone a liar and stepping back into the shadows. Read his defense again and again if you need. There is actual evidence that he has played by the rules and the fact that he does discredit his accusers is only a side effect of the bruising they gave him over the last 2 weeks.

I know this isn't over, but how can anyone claim Alberto's defense isn't spot the f on?!

he probably says a dozen times that magness is lying, that kgoucher is lying...I'll take a look again when I have some time but he basically accuses people of lying. again and again.

everyone is lying about alberto!

why do they do this again and again?

I printed out the statement, read the entire thing, including the linked documents and highlighted several paragraphs. If someone does not beat me to it, I will summarize the statement and post it late tonight. The statement is not a literary work of art and seems devoid of legal craftsmanship; it appear to be written by one person, a layperson. Assuming Alberto wrote all of this himself, he did an excellent good job in telling his side of the story. Although it is extremely comprehensive, it did not respond to everything, which would have made the statement too long for the average person to read. However, it did cover the major points. Whether you believe in Alberto's guilt or innocence, this statement provides a powerful counter to the BBC/Propublia article and the other statements made. For many people, this statement will clear things, but unfortunately for Alberto, the people who are in the business of selling news print and mouse clicks, this simply gives them more information to keep the story going and benefit from.

Gee--I guess you never exaggerated anything to make yourself look good. Really. Try growing up. Human beings exaggerate things to make themselves important--even if they are important and even if they have achieved a great deal. This is not hard to believe. And while Salazar surely wants to plunge the dagger into Magness and Goucher, what matters most in what he wrote is not the juxtaposition between things they said then and now, but the more specific responses to their charges--that is, his account of what he asserts took place.

runDirtyrun wrote:

His document's summary claim of not doping because he follows the rules doesn't mean he's not doping. It only means he's taking advantage of the loopholes offered. And there are many, including Androgel use and IVs.

That's bulls...!!! Why is it so hard for you to admit that he is not doping?!?! And he addressed the IV accusations. Read the report!!!!

What I found interesting is that he believed the whole Gatlin excuse (masseuse or whomever sabotaged him).

Unlike the people on this board, when one is a public figure, when one is charged with wrongdoing, when one's professional life, indeed one's life, is on the line, one responds prudently and in due course, rather than responding on a message board.

The most important thing wrote:

I can't believe this hasn't come up yet, but...

Given ProPublica's journalistic method, why is AlSal only now saying that what he was accused of is false? Had he made his claims when they first contacted him, this story wouldn't have blown up as much as it did. Their process would have led to them accepting his claims and then investigating further. Instead, only one side of the story came out and other informants and claims were able to come out against him.

If we are to believe AlSal, why didn't he immediately deny the claims when he had the chance and before the article/video came out?

So desperate wrote:

You just want him to be guilty SO SO badly - keep trying

Let's not let the facts get in your way.

The facts are: the exhibits were redacted in way to erase some material the slanted the "wrong" way.

Salazar's lawyers only released the least damaging emails. The exhibits have been filtered to represent only what the client (Salazar) wants to represent.

So, in other words, typical attorney creative writing.