The BYU phenomen--alternate theories

Great. You can't have coffee, but you can marry off your 12 year old daughter to the 80 year old polygamist next door.

brigham likes em young wrote:

Great. You can't have coffee, but you can marry off your 12 year old daughter to the 80 year old polygamist next door.

In 1830, yes. Of course, you could also own slaves in a lot of states. I guess times were different.

I know that pretty much everything here is factual. The only thing I question is the "intellectual capacity" dig. They are quite childlike and gullible, but in general the mormons are average or a little below average in brainpower. Surely the massive amount of inbreeding pulls them down. Let's just say that mormons don't have the moral capacity to question their ridiculous authorities. They believe that some random eighty year old white dude is the prophet of God. And that prophet says that God told him you have to have many wives to become a god and get your own planet, but a later old prophet says that God lied about that and now that the federal government is involved, you can only have one wife (wink, wink). And one prophet says that God told him that negroes are evil, and can't be mormon priests, then a later prophet says that God lied before, and now negroes can be mormon priests (conveniently just when another federal crackdown is coming).

Pologs wrote:

brigham likes em young wrote:

Great. You can't have coffee, but you can marry off your 12 year old daughter to the 80 year old polygamist next door.

In 1830, yes. Of course, you could also own slaves in a lot of states. I guess times were different.

In 1830, 1930, and 2019. Entire cities in Utah are overrun with mormon polygamist today. Hilldale, Colorado City, St. George. There are huge polygamist compounds all over Salt Lake, Provo, and all the other bigger cities in Utah. It is a fact that mormon peophiles are rampant and using the teachings of the pedophile Joseph Smith to justify their disgusting habits.

Utah observer is bitter at not having any success with the hot utah chicks. While observing them being snapped up by successful mormon guys. That explains the salty.

brigham likes em young wrote:

Pologs wrote:

In 1830, yes. Of course, you could also own slaves in a lot of states. I guess times were different.

In 1830, 1930, and 2019. Entire cities in Utah are overrun with mormon polygamist today. Hilldale, Colorado City, St. George. There are huge polygamist compounds all over Salt Lake, Provo, and all the other bigger cities in Utah. It is a fact that mormon peophiles are rampant and using the teachings of the pedophile Joseph Smith to justify their disgusting habits.

I’m not arguing for joe Smith, not by a long shot, but none of those people you mention are members of the actual Mormon church. And you know this. BY had a million wives at the same time people owned slaves. Neither sounds too good to me.

Tons of official temple going tithing magic underwear wearing mormons are polygamists. They are hiding out in plain sight, maybe their local bishop knows about or is a polyg too, I wouldn't know. The compound dwellers have been "officially" disowned by the LDS, but are still every bit mormon.

brigham likes em young wrote:

Tons of official temple going tithing magic underwear wearing mormons are polygamists. They are hiding out in plain sight, maybe their local bishop knows about or is a polyg too, I wouldn't know. The compound dwellers have been "officially" disowned by the LDS, but are still every bit mormon.

Name ten

Go ahead

Go ahead if you know it all wrote:

brigham likes em young wrote:

Tons of official temple going tithing magic underwear wearing mormons are polygamists. They are hiding out in plain sight, maybe their local bishop knows about or is a polyg too, I wouldn't know. The compound dwellers have been "officially" disowned by the LDS, but are still every bit mormon.

Name ten

Go ahead

Russell Ballard

Jeffrey Holland

Dieter Uchtdorf

David Bednar

Quentin Cook

Todd Christofferson

Neil Andersen

Ronald Rasband

Gary Stevenson

Dale Renlund

Ulisses Soares

Warren Jeffs

Cliven Bundy

Dallin Oakes

brigham likes em young wrote:

Go ahead if you know it all wrote:

Name ten

Go ahead

Russell Ballard

Jeffrey Holland

Dieter Uchtdorf

David Bednar

Quentin Cook

Todd Christofferson

Neil Andersen

Ronald Rasband

Gary Stevenson

Dale Renlund

Ulisses Soares

Warren Jeffs

Cliven Bundy

Dallin Oakes

Warren Jeffs and those of his ilk are not Mormons or members of the LDS Church. They are a break off group from them and have nothing to do with the LDS Church in SLC. Your ignorance is showing.

But anyway...……..what does this have to do with the subject in the title?

brigham likes em young wrote:

Go ahead if you know it all wrote:

Name ten

Go ahead

Russell Ballard

Jeffrey Holland

Dieter Uchtdorf

David Bednar

Quentin Cook

Todd Christofferson

Neil Andersen

Ronald Rasband

Gary Stevenson

Dale Renlund

Ulisses Soares

Warren Jeffs

Cliven Bundy

Dallin Oakes

Nobody on that list has multiple wives and is an actual member of the mormon church.

I can claim to be a member of the Dallas cowboys but that downs not make me a member.

Get real man wrote:

brigham likes em young wrote:

Russell Ballard

Jeffrey Holland

Dieter Uchtdorf

David Bednar

Quentin Cook

Todd Christofferson

Neil Andersen

Ronald Rasband

Gary Stevenson

Dale Renlund

Ulisses Soares

Warren Jeffs

Cliven Bundy

Dallin Oakes

Nobody on that list has multiple wives and is an actual member of the mormon church.

I can claim to be a member of the Dallas cowboys but that downs not make me a member.

The first eleven on the list are the highest ranking members of the LDS cult, including the self proclaimed prophet. Since it is mostly a money making scam, they may or may not be stupid enough to believe anything that the con artist Joseph Smith said, but they need all of their collection plate filling followers to believe. Jeffs is a mormon in prison for pedophile rape and polygamy among other crimes. Oakes was sealed in the SLC temple to more than one wife. Look it up. Only a brainwashed fool believes that there aren't thousands of polygamist mormons right now.

I don't know what much of this has to do with byu runners. Mormons in general have low senses of morality, hence the age cheating. They could easily do their missions after college and stop any question of age advantage. Low morality and gullibility also could indicate willingness to PED use, but that hasn't been proven like the age cheating. Also, byu is a very easy school, so a smart kid wouldn't need to study much; plenty of time to train. The same is true at Oregon.

I don't think the mormons are any more evil than scientologists, southern baptists or lots of other cults. It's a money making scam which has a bunch of ancient, corrupt, hypocritical leaders just the same as all the others. Is a mormon president any better or worse than a Rolex wearing, hooker visiting televangelist?

Jesus said that it is impossible for a rich person to go to Heaven, so we can take comfort in knowing that all these dudes will soon be suffering the fires of hell for all eternity.

Cult, scam, money grubbing. These seem to be common themes here.

Anyway, how do BYU freshmen stack up to other freshmen? I can tell y'all by experience that it is a little bit disheartening on reflection for a 17 year old to be thrown in a race with 25 year olds, even though at the time I didn't think about it. I imagine it is the same for a clean runner facing a NOP.

It seems like BYU is a pretty low stress environment. As long as you toe the line with the honor code's draconian rules, you can slide by. Everything is decided for you by the church, and there are really low academic expectations.

Sort of like the military academies, except those dudes and women really have to study hard. At BYU, all the life decisions are prescribed so you have a clear mind just to train. Instead of getting drunk, you go to the ice cream social. Instead of reading, you sit through church meetings. Instead of chasing sex, you chase converts.

I asked you to name 10 and you named zero that are actually members of the mormon church and are actually married in the real sense of the word including habitation and sexual intimacy. Some bulls#it sealing ceremony means nothing. They baptized the pope. does that mean the pope is mormon?

I guarantee that everyone on that list is married and is a mormon. Pretty sure that they all live with their wives and have many, many children (except Jeffs, who lives with a bunch of other convicts although he has many, many wives and children. Most of them are general authorities of the LDS, the so called Quorum of Twelve. Any mormon would piss their pants to have one of those "apostles" looking into their affairs. I'm pretty sure that getting sealed in a temple is the only kind of marriage that mormon authorities recognize. Just because someone isn't married at City Hall doesn't mean they aren't still married. Brigham Young claimed at least 27 wives but only one was really a legal marriage. I'm pretty sure he would have stoned any of them for "adultery", and didn't give a rats about any American laws regarding marriage or anything else. There are numerous excellent documentaries, articles and books about current mormon polygamy, but the brainwashed will never be convinced and will always cry "fake news."

Why do you care about what Brigham Young did? Focus on the current policies. Did you know that the Democrat party was the party of slavery? Should the Republicans throw that at today’s democrats?

Brig wrote:

Why do you care about what Brigham Young did? Focus on the current policies. Did you know that the Democrat party was the party of slavery? Should the Republicans throw that at today’s democrats?

Brigham Young claimed to be the prophet of God. From God to BY to Mormons. What he claimed God told him applies to Mormons every bit as much today as it did in his day. The Mormons use BY's prophesies from the past as gospel today. They study it, preach it, follow it.