LeBron James vs Floyd Mayweather in a fight

lanny poffo wrote:

So you know for a fact that taking an elbow from an nba center [...]

Of course you are right about elbows. There are many techniques at work here. Elbows are dangerous, but someone with no fight training is going to have misses with them. Throwing elbows in a track race or the NBA is not the same as in freestyle fighting.

Many people are way too opinionated in this thread. My strongest opinion is that we can't be sure of what would happen, and those who are almost 100% pro Lebron are reckless and ignorant.

Fight in the dog wrote: Don't fight anyone unless you are prepared to deal with consequences of winning

Good luck all and may you all be blessed to never know the reality of hurting your fellow man

What did you do? Severely injure someone? Take someone out?

Did u see the elbow? LeBron, driving to the hoop with speed, and McRoberts steps in front of him and drills him with his elbow in the throat. It wasnt martial arts technique so much as LeBron hitting it while accelerating forward that made it impactful. Body momentum effects force of impact and these two large men were moving towards each other.

lanny poffo wrote:

Are u joking? Sure, Lebron doesnt box. He is still an athlete who is significantly larger and stronger. If it is any other style of fight besides boxing there is no way LBJ wouldnt be favored. But I guess scrawny runners wouldnt know about these things. LBJ has 1ft and 100lbs on Mayweather in addition to being fit and very strong... He isnt just some random big guy. If its just a "fight", he has this one. The idiots are the ones saying otherwise.

I've competed in MMA & boxing (those just training- it's very different).

Floyd would win easily.

I've seen top pros with arms fully down, stand IN FRONT of top amateurs- & not get hit an entire round, just by slipping- & this incl body. Fighting is obviously wrestling & clinching too (neither likely knows BJJ). So it helps LeBron. But Floyd would hit much harder, have much better fight-cardio & would not get cornered/trapped- too fast/elusive. LeBron would be forced into fighting in space- partly because who wants to get in punching range of Floyd? LeBron's reach? Floyd would KTFO LeBron off LeBron's 1st swing.

lanny poffo wrote:

So you know for a fact that taking an elbow from an nba center while running into them at full speed is nothing compared to taking a punch from a 145 lb boxer? The fact is you are full of sh*t. Just because someone is boxer doesnt make there shots definitely harder than any non-boxer regardless of size. Fact is you dont even know Lebron cant hit harder than Mayweather. I would take a punch from Mayweather sooner than the elbow Lebron took to the throat from McRoberts anyday. Ko power is influenced by the size of the fighters. Mayweather doesn't hit like Tyson and if you dont know then you are right, you know nothing about fighting.

I already admitted to not knowing much about fighting. But I'm still guessing I know more than most in this thread. Certainly not more than everyone, but most. The difference is that you are acting like you do - and I'm not retarded.

"Fact is you don't even know Lebron cant hit harder than Mayweather".

I'm really not sure how to respond to that. I mean, I know an elephant weights more than my cat. Do I have both animals and a scale to prove it - no. But again, I'm not retarded so I know the elephant weights more.

I get that I can't predict the future. But I just can't imagine how ignorant or dumb you'd have to be to think Lebron has a chance. Just truly boggles my mind.

First time Lebron attempts anything forward he's getting seriously, seriously hurt. Believe it son.

Thank you for this post. This is reality.

Zero chance Lebron tries to just swing punches. And Mayweather is NOT one punch koing LeBron. He isnt a power puncher and he has one 1-2 swings tops before they tie up. He is punching up 1ft which hurts the power he does have. Mayweather is more of an accumulation hitter. A fight wont last long. If you have grappled, as have I, then you know the major disadvantage Mayweather is at here.

You should have just posted you dont know much about fighting and left it at that. You dont even appear to be familiar with Mayweather's style. And if you think being a boxer automatically makes you a morepowerful puncher than everyone who isnt, including people far more massive, then you are clueless. For instance, day one Brock Lesnar stepped into an mma gym with no boxing at all he could still punch with far more power than Mayweather ever could. There isnt a 100% correlation but a dramatic increase in mass and strength makes a big difference. But it doesn't matter. This isn't boxing here. It's a fight. If u think a one shot ko is happening u are delusional. If dont think Lebron cant get Mayweather down and keep him there you dont no much about grappling. With two guys with little to no grappling, the stronger guy with an extra 100lb of muscle who is pretty quick himself is at a huge advantage.

Not just me, most of my generation have. People these days are not allowed to fight at all or there's a big stink about it. Lawsuits, suspensions, charges, jail, the whole 9 yards. 20 or 30 years ago they'd just separate you and send you on your way if it was mutual and nobody was seriously injured or endangered. The law recognized that occasional fighting was natural and trusted us not to go too far.

And it's much different from sport combat, which involves less danger. Something everyone learned from schoolyard or street scuffles is how hard it is to hit someone who's jumping around high on adrenaline, especially if you've got adrenaline going yourself. Adrenaline constricts peripheral blood vessels and reduces motor control in the limbs. The basic football skills of running and tackling are much more valuable during fight-or-flight since they require little coordination other than charging and slamming into the opponent. A basketball player has at least some running skills - a boxer, jogging at best. The two advantages in running and tackling are of course speed and size. Lebron far outclasses Floyd in each.

Of course you will not believe this because it was I who said it, but the army and emergency responders figured it out long ago.

Even with less adrenaline in their sport, boxers would still be nearly unhittable if they weren't actively trying to hit the other boxer themselves. If not for the scoring rules, they could just dance out of the way or play rope-a-dope for 12 rounds. Unfortunately the scorecard favors those who throw punches, which requires them to stand in front of their opponent with a gap in their guard at least part of the time. If you aren't boxing, it is easy to just lower your head, raise your guard, duck forward and grapple.

Some other things about unstaged fights:

) the vast majority are inconclusive, no winner, no loser.

) drunk people fight like shit. Bar fights are not a good example to follow.

) the worst danger is that they might escalate to the use of weapons or more people, which can get you wounded, killed or imprisoned for a very long time.

) usually the only punch that lands solidly is a sucker punch.

) Wrestlers are protected by special rules just like boxers; e.g. the guard position is no defense against a punch to the nuts, rather it invites it. Getting tackled usually means losing, especially on pavement.

This thread is not about fights to the death, and I didn't mention them either. If it were to the death, Lebron and FM would bring guns and knives, if they were smart.

Lebron James isn't Brock Lesnar.

I am familiar with his style.

I can't write anymore on this thread. You guys are too f***** dumb. The idea that Lebron has any kind of fighting skills that he could put to use is hilarious.

Give lebron a full year of training and I'll have this discussion with you. Those two guys walk out into the street tonight Lebron is getting jacked up.

Calling Lebron quick is idiotic. With relevance to a fight, Lebron would be like an anchor.

How do you seriously think this would happen?

1) Lebron quick enough to even touch FM...hilarious

2) Lebron touching him without getting hit..hilarious

3) Lebron taking a hit from FM and recovering enough to not get hit again again..hilarious

4) The idea that Lebron could choke him out...with what training?...hilarious

100 pounds isn't much if you get his square in the jaw.

Go ahead, I'll let you say Lebron has a more powerful punch than FM. Doesn't really matter anyways.

Intangibles count too believe it or not.

But go ahead, keep telling me how a professional boxer who's 46-0, is going to lose a fight to an NBA player who can't even finish a playoff game due to cramps.

Go ahead, tell me how all of his boxing skills go out the window because all of a sudden it's a street fight.

The real question should be whether Lebron, Wayde and Bosh together could take FM or not. FM would make the fight go whichever way he'd want it to. And that would be standing up...for the entire 15 seconds it would take to make Lebron look like a chump.

There is almost no inherent truths in this post at all. Essentially everything you said is debatable at best to flat out bs, except Lebron being no Brock. That's true. But it underscores the importance of strength and size. When it's freakishly different, it matters. If u think Lebron wouldn't even get a hand on Mayweather your delusional. Your last comment about Mayweather suggests a form of retardation. You clearly cant grasp remotely the strength required to play post in the nba. Newsflash, it's more boxing 145 pounders. But ignorance is bliss.

You Are What You Is wrote:

LeBron vs. Mayweather in a fight.

You vs. Meb in a marathon.

You vs. Stephen King in a horror-book writing contest.

You vs. someone with critical thinking skills.

In each example, one of these people is trained in something. The other is not.

If I could like this I would

Surprise! wrote:

You Are What You Is wrote:

LeBron vs. Mayweather in a fight.

You vs. Meb in a marathon.

You vs. Stephen King in a horror-book writing contest.

You vs. someone with critical thinking skills.

In each example, one of these people is trained in something. The other is not.

If I could like this I would

Don't drink kids

ttc, you can't see Lebron clinching with him after Floyd landing 2-3 shots, without much damage? And weren't you the MMA guy who fought MMA without any MMA training? If so, having an MMA fight is irrelevant when it comes to talking about experience.

Lebron isn't going to win this by a gogoplata but he can easily grab Floyd's throat while standing and take down the much smaller fighter without much trouble. Once he's on the ground, he doesn't need to be an All-American wrestler or a BJJ blackbelt. Floyd's too small to get back up and Lebron can pound him out with basic punches and elbows.

How many of you have actually watched Floyd box more than one time? A decent high school wrestler would have no trouble beating up Floyd.

Finally some reason here.

I'm 5'10, 170 lbs.

This is like me fighting someone who is 5'1, 102 lbs. That is a short, petite woman. I would have no fear fighting against someone that size, no matter their training. It would be like fighting a doll, you push them and they fly 10 feet.

No way Lebron loses this one.

It seems I have to step in once again and provide the correct answer in a LeBron hypothetical.

Scenario 1: Boxing Match

Floyd wins. As some have pointed out, Floyd Mayweather is one of the best in history at boxing. His quickness, stamina, and defense are not just world class, but maybe the best ever. Therefore, LeBron is not going to be able to lay a glove on him in the ring. HOWEVER! There is also little chance of Floyd truly hurting LeBron in the ring, or actually knocking him out. He is NOT a power puncher, and he's fighting WAY above his weight class. LeBron may not enjoy the 1,000 body shots that Floyd lands, but they aren't going to affect him the same way that they would affect a 150 pound man.

Assuming both fighters are strongly motivated to win ($50 million to winner, $0 to loser, or something), Floyd is just gonna win on points, and LeBron is gonna be frustrated that he can't land a single punch over the course of 12 rounds. He also might have a bruise.

Side note: Anyone thinking/claiming that Floyd is objectively stronger than LeBron is out of his mind.

Scenario 2: Street Fight

This is a better hypothetical, because I think it could actually go either way. Neither man is trained in street fighting, and much of Floyd's boxing advantage will be negated when the fight goes to the ground. That's where LeBron's massive size and strength advantage will come into play. Granted, Floyd could still get lucky, especially if he's able to land a blow to LeBron's head while the two are grappling -- something, ironically, he most likely wouldn't be able to do if the two were boxing, due to reach/height disadvantages.

So... completely untrained, I think LeBron wins the street fight 6/10 times. Give him a few months of MMA training, and it's more like 9/10.

Imaging LeBron’s survival instinct kicking in !

if it was to the death

if he had no choice

lebron would kill BBQ and eat mayweather

actual cannibalism

fgfg wrote:

Imaging LeBron’s survival instinct kicking in !

if it was to the death

if he had no choice

lebron would kill BBQ and eat mayweather

actual cannibalism

based on his play in the league finals he would tag out to Wade