Looks like there was a chance in the weekend schedule due to the weather -
Columbia could not fly out to Iowa for the Iowa State Classic, but they were allowed entry into the Armory's Lafayette-Rider Invitational. Upon quick glance, Waverly Neer ran the 3k, and Marvellous ran a new indoor PR in the 200m, 24.02. I did not look through all of the results (about 3/4 of the women only) at this time.
Some fast times from both Columbia and Penn at the Armory last night ....
http://www.armorytrack.com/gprofile.php?do=view_event&event_id=1555&mgroup_id=45586&year=2014
Looking for H-Y-P results, but Yale track has fallen off so much they can't even do that right ......
Finally, H-Y-P Results
http://hyp.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=1578&year=2014&do=info
Definitely a mixed bag for Cornell out at the SPIRE meet, but check out their 4x400s!
4) Cornell 'A' 3:10.14 1
1) Gibson, Larry 2) Hairston, Max
3) Cho, Hong 4) Hortelano-Roig, Bruno
The Cornell folks are giving the splits as Gibson 47.4, Hairston 47.6, Cho 49.5, and Hortelano-Roig 45.7! (BHR also ran 20.84 for 200, which Cornell is crediting as a school record and calling an Ivy and Spanish national record--I don't know whether the League and Spain accept records from oversize tracks, though.)
2) Cornell 'A' 3:38.48 1
1) Kolliesuah, Zena 2) Airewele, Ebolutalese
3) Wilkinson, Elyse 4) Akpaete, Udeme
I haven't "processed" all their marks from the meet yet (
http://lightningtiming.com/results/20140214/Results.htm
), but those two certainly stood out!
Impressive 4x4ing! I believe that men's time would be the second-fastest in Ivy League history (behind Princeton's 3:09.35 from '11?--sorry, can't access HTC right now); and that women's time, which pushes the Big Red ahead of Harvard again on the season performance list, certainly must be close to a League record.
(But I'm amused when I realize that Columbia might very well beat them both, head-to-head at Heps. If all goes as Cornell or Harvard hopes, its four relayists could get quite a workout in individual events before the time for the relay rolls around.)
Nerts. I had hoped to produce another of my death defying, accept-no-substitutes, non-predicting, virtual meet scores this morning; but it appears that the weekend's competition is not over yet. Well, tomorrow's a day off from work...maybe I'll do one then.
Many/most Heps-bound athletes won't compete on the coming weekend-before-Heps, so whatever I come up with this week will probably be my final virtual tally.
As usual, fun.-style analysis will be a better predictor of what's actually going to happen at Heps. But fun. typically doesn't seem to dope out the women's competition, so let me just give everyone a hint (again!) there: Watch out for Columbia. They have excellent event coverage, and with Neer back in action they are a genuine threat. Sprints, hurdles, jumps, throws, distance, relays: there are lots of ways they can score big points.
My VIRTUAL SCORE NOW WITH SOME NEW SPECULATIONS:
1) Athletes Removed due to ZERO marks in 2013-2014 Indoor Season
SR John Spooney (Brown) *Focusing on Football Combine
SR John Schilkowsky (Cornell)
SR Andre Anderson (Cornell)
JR Nick Athanasopoulos (Cornell)
JR Rutger Admirand (Cornell) *Not on Roster
JR Han Wei Chew (Cornell)
SR Byron Jones (Columbia) *Ran Unattached
JR Connor Claflin (Columbia)
JR Silas Talbot (Dartmouth)
JR Sam Yoder (Dartmouth)
SR Connor McCarthy (Harvard)
SR Mason Smith (Penn)
SR Brad Pelisek (Princeton)
SR Jonathan Vitez (Princeton)
JR William Egi (Princeton)
SR Paul Chandler (Yale)
JR John McGowan (Yale)
2) Virtual Coaching Decisions, I predicted what events athletes would enter in. (NOTE: I could be very wrong with these speculations)
John Bleday (YES 3K; YES 5K; NO Mile)
Thomas Awad (YES 3K; YES 5K; NO Mile)
Kevin Boyd (YES 400; NO 500)
Mato Bekelja (YES 800; NO 500)
Brendon Fish (YES 800; NO 1K)
John Gregorek (YES Mile; NO 1K)
Tom Hopkins (YES 500; YES 60H; YES LJ; NO 400; NO HEP)
Bruno Hortelano-Roig (YES 60; YES 400; NO 500)
Harry McFann (YES 800; NO 500)
Sam Miner (NO 400; YES 500)
Cisco Olloqui (YES 500; NO 400)
Bradley Paternostro (NO 1K; YES 800)
Michael Williams (NO 800; YES Mile)
Ned Willig (NO 800; NO Mile; YES 1K)
James Shirvell (YES Mile; NO 1K; NO 800)
Will Geoghegan (NO 5K; YES Mile; YES 3K)
Daniel Everett (NO 1K; NO 5K; YES Mile; YES 3K)
Tom Purnell (YES Mile; YES 3K; NO 5K)
Maksim Korolev (NO Mile; YES 5K; YES 3K)
VIRTUAL SCORE (NO RELAYS)
163.0 Cornell (9 athletes 7th or 8th)
120.5 Princeton (8 athletes 7th or 8th)
071.0 Harvard (6 athletes 7th or 8th)
036.0 Columbia (2 athletes 7th or 8th)
035.0 Brown (6 athletes 7th or 8th)
025.5 Penn (1 athlete 7th or 8th)
023.0 Dartmouth (8 athletes 7th or 8th)
022.0 Yale (0 athletes 7th or 8th)
001 | 60 | 10 | 6.76 | COR | SR | Hortelano-Roig, Bruno
002 | 60 | 07 | 6.79 | COR | SR | Bain, Chris
002 | 60 | 07 | 6.79 | HAR | SR | Wilson, Damani
004 | 60 | 04 | 6.80 | COR | SR | Ojukwu, Kinsley
005 | 60 | 02 | 6.81 | HAR | SR | Ezekoye, Andrew
006 | 60 | 01 | 6.84 | PRI | SO | Nelson, Lavondre
007 | 60 | XX | 6.88 | PRI | SO | Hill, John
008 | 60 | XX | 6.92 | COR | SO | Hynes, Ryan
008 | 60 | XX | 6.92 | DAR | JR | Buskey, Brett
008 | 60 | XX | 6.92 | HAR | FR | Uwaifo, Efe
----
DNS | 400 | -- | 46.23 | PRI | SR | Hopkins, Tom
001 | 400 | 10 | 46.60 | COR | SR | Hortelano-Roig, Bruno
002 | 400 | 08 | 47.45 | YAL | FR | Alexandre, Marc-Andre
003 | 400 | 06 | 47.88 | COL | JR | Boyd, Kevin
004 | 400 | 04 | 48.26 | COR | SO | Gibson, Larry
005 | 400 | 02 | 48.37 | COR | SR | Ojukwu, Kinsley
006 | 400 | 01 | 48.53 | HAR | FR | Heckendorn, James
007 | 400 | XX | 48.61 | PRI | JR | McCord, Daniel
DNS | 400 | -- | 48.62 | COL | SR | Miner, Sam
008 | 400 | XX | 48.73 | BRO | SR | Brown, Ajani
DNS | 400 | -- | 48.78 | COR | JR | Olloqui, Cisco
----
001 | 500 | 10 | 1:02.57 | PRI | SR | Hopkins, Tom
DNS | 500 | -- | 1:02.95 | COR | SR | Hortelano-Roig, Bruno
DNS | 500 | -- | 1:03.76 | COL | SR | McFann, Harry
002 | 500 | 08 | 1:03.81 | COR | JR | Olloqui, Cisco
003 | 500 | 06 | 1:04.11 | COR | SO | Hairston, Max
004 | 500 | 04 | 1:04.13 | PEN | JR | Timmins, Tom
005 | 500 | 02 | 1:04.17 | PEN | SO | Hamlett, Tim
DNS | 500 | -- | 1:04.34 | COL | JR | Boyd, Kevin
006 | 500 | 01 | 1:04.42 | COL | SR | Miner, Sam
007 | 500 | XX | 1:04.43 | COR | JR | Flood, Zach
DNS | 500 | -- | 1:04.46 | PEN | JR | Bekelja, Mato
008 | 500 | XX | 1:04.49 | COR | JR | Cho, Hong
----
001 | 800 | 10 | 1:48.14 | COL | SR | McFann, Harry
002 | 800 | 08 | 1:48.43 | COR | SR | Weinlandt, Will
003 | 800 | 06 | 1:48.64 | COL | JR | Fish, Brendon
004 | 800 | 04 | 1:49.20 | PRI | JR | Paternostro, Bradley
DNS | 800 | -- | 1:49.53 | PRI | SR | Williams, Michael
005 | 800 | 02 | 1:49.62 | PEN | JR | Bekelja, Mato
DNS | 800 | -- | 1:50.04 | BRO | SO | Willig, Ned
006 | 800 | 01 | 1:50.09 | PEN | SO | Magaha, Drew
007 | 800 | XX | 1:50.29 | BRO | JR | Tufnell, Henry
008 | 800 | XX | 1:50.40 | DAR | SR | Zirngibl, Lukas
DNS | 800 | -- | 1:51.14 | YAL | SR | Shirvell, James
----
001 | 1000 | 10 | 2:22.35 | BRO | SO | Willig, Ned
002 | 1000 | 08 | 2:23.78 | PRI | SO | Brahm, Luke
DNS | 1000 | -- | 2:23.85 | YAL | SR | Shirvell, James
DNS | 1000 | -- | 2:23.91 | PRI | JR | Paternostro, Bradley
DNS | 1000 | -- | 2:24.10 | COL | JR | Fish, Brendon
003 | 1000 | 06 | 2:25.18 | BRO | SR | Savage, Colin
DNS | 1000 | -- | 2:25.77 | COL | SR | Gregorek, John
004 | 1000 | 04 | 2:25.84 | COL | FR | Napolitano, Rob
005 | 1000 | 02 | 2:26.11 | PRI | FR | Paulson, William
006 | 1000 | 01 | 2:26.16 | COL | SR | Nestor, Daniel
DNS | 1000 | -- | 2:26.26 | COL | JR | Everett, Daniel
007 | 1000 | XX | 2:26.41 | COR | JR | Potts, Ben
008 | 1000 | XX | 2:26.45 | HAR | JR | Reck, Connor
----
001 | 1609 | 10 | 3:58.04 | DAR | SR | Geoghegan, Will
002 | 1609 | 08 | 3:58.56 | YAL | SR | Shirvell, James
003 | 1609 | 06 | 3:59.63 | PRI | SR | Williams, Michael
004 | 1609 | 04 | 4:00.31 | COL | SR | Gregorek, John
005 | 1609 | 02 | 4:00.42 | COL | JR | Everett, Daniel
DNS | 1609 | -- | 4:00.69 | DAR | SR | Bleday, John
006 | 1609 | 01 | 4:00.86 | DAR | SR | Mangan, Steve
007 | 1609 | XX | 4:01.64 | DAR | SO | Gorman, Tim
DNS | 1609 | -- | 4:02.21 | HAR | SR | Korolev, Maksim
008 | 1609 | XX | 4:03.26 | HAR | SO | Purnell, Tom
DNS | 1609 | -- | 4:03.35 | BRO | SO | Willig, Ned
DNS | 1609 | -- | 4:04.54 | PEN | SO | Awad, Thomas
----
001 | 3K | 10 | 7:51.52 | HAR | SR | Korolev, Maksim
002 | 3K | 08 | 7:51.57 | DAR | SR | Geoghegan, Will
003 | 3K | 06 | 7:57.44 | PRI | SR | Bendtsen, Chris
004 | 3K | 04 | 7:59.33 | DAR | SR | Bleday, John
005 | 3K | 02 | 8:01.01 | COL | JR | Everett, Daniel
006 | 3K | 01 | 8:04.34 | PEN | SO | Awad, Thomas
007 | 3K | XX | 8:05.58 | HAR | SO | Purnell, Tom
008 | 3K | XX | 8:06.50 | PRI | JR | Pons, Sam
----
001 | 5K | 10 | 13:42.56 | HAR | SR | Korolev, Maksim
002 | 5K | 08 | 13:51.22 | HAR | SR | Leakos, James
DNS | 5K | -- | 13:55.92 | DAR | SR | Geoghegan, Will
003 | 5K | 06 | 13:57.46 | PRI | SR | Bendtsen, Chris
DNS | 5K | -- | 13:57.72 | COL | JR | Everett, Daniel
004 | 5K | 04 | 14:01.93 | PRI | SR | Udland, Tyler
005 | 5K | 02 | 14:02.08 | PRI | SR | Arroyo Yamin, Alejandro
006 | 5K | 01 | 14:04.75 | PEN | SO | Awad, Thomas
007 | 5K | XX | 14:07.89 | DAR | SR | Bleday, John
DNS | 5K | -- | 14:12.90 | HAR | SO | Purnell, Tom
008 | 5K | XX | 14:13.41 | COL | SR | Composto, Nico
----
001 | 60H | 10 | 7.91 | PRI | JR | Mohr, Robert
002 | 60H | 08 | 7.97 | COR | SO | Hairston, Max
003 | 60H | 06 | 8.00 | HAR | JR | Harris, Jarvis
004 | 60H | 04 | 8.10 | PRI | SO | Caldwell, Gregory
005 | 60H | 02 | 8.12 | PEN | SO | Bowers, Ben
006 | 60H | 01 | 8.25 | BRO | JR | Rhodes, Peter
007 | 60H | XX | 8.27 | HAR | SR | Moan, Tim
008 | 60H | XX | 8.29 | BRO | SR | Weinstock, Evan
008 | 60H | XX | 8.29 | COR | JR | Hanninen, Jon
----
001 | HEP | 10 | 5296 | BRO | SR | Weinstock, Evan
002 | HEP | 08 | 5199 | BRO | JR | Rhodes, Peter
003 | HEP | 06 | 5176 | PRI | JR | Soerens, Stephen
004 | HEP | 04 | 5153 | COR | SR | Rabbitt, Mike
005 | HEP | 02 | 5087 | COR | FR | Jamerson, Austin
DNS | HEP | -- | 5086 | PRI | SR | Hopkins, Tom
006 | HEP | 01 | 5030 | PRI | SO | Oslin, Brian
007 | HEP | XX | 5000 | PEN | SO | Pitt, Thomas
008 | HEP | XX | 4818 | COR | SO | Hynes, Ryan
----
001 | HJ | 10 | 2.28m | PEN | SR | Reynolds, Maalik
002 | HJ | 08 | 2.27m | COR | SR | Blair, Montez
003 | HJ | 05 | 2.16m | COR | SO | Afadapa, Stephen
003 | HJ | 05 | 2.16m | COR | SR | Butler, Tommy
005 | HJ | 1.5 | 2.08m | PEN | SO | Pitt, Thomas
005 | HJ | 1.5 | 2.08m | PRI | SR | Jarrett, Omar
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | BRO | JR | Rhodes, Peter
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | COR | FR | Mankovecky, Jozef
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | COR | SR | Stancil, Hercules
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | DAR | JR | Birck, Jeremy
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | DAR | FR | Frye, Alex
007 | HJ | XX | 2.04m | PRI | FR | Bledsoe, Xavier
----
001 | LJ | 10 | 7.66m | PRI | SR | Hopkins, Tom
002 | LJ | 08 | 7.55m | PRI | SR | McLean, Damon
003 | LJ | 06 | 7.54m | COR | SR | Bell, Steven
004 | LJ | 04 | 7.42m | COR | SR | Stancil, Hercules
005 | LJ | 02 | 7.40m | YAL | SR | Lindberg, Dana
006 | LJ | 01 | 7.33m | PRI | JR | Soerens, Stephen
007 | LJ | XX | 7.29m | COR | SR | Blair, Montez
008 | LJ | XX | 7.23m | PRI | SO | Scinto, Jake
----
001 | PV | 10 | 5.22m | PRI | JR | Bragg, Adam
002 | PV | 08 | 5.17m | COR | SR | Roach, Peter
003 | PV | 06 | 5.05m | COR | FR | Sisserson, Grant
004 | PV | 04 | 5.00m | YAL | SO | Sullivan, Brendan
005 | PV | 02 | 4.95m | COR | SR | Pawlak, Steven
005 | PV | 02 | 4.95m | COR | JR | Rayburn, Keith
007 | PV | XX | 4.90m | BRO | SR | Igelman, Sean
007 | PV | XX | 4.90m | DAR | SR | Cyphers, Josh
007 | PV | XX | 4.90m | PRI | FR | Gaylord, Ben
----
001 | SP | 10 | 20.52m | COR | JR | Mozia, Stephen
002 | SP | 08 | 18.45m | HAR | SR | Brode, Dustin
003 | SP | 06 | 18.07m | HAR | JR | Glauser, Ben
004 | SP | 04 | 17.69m | PRI | JR | Rushton, Scott
005 | SP | 02 | 17.56m | HAR | JR | Liokumovich, Igor
006 | SP | 01 | 17.25m | PEN | SR | Brenza, Jacob
007 | SP | XX | 17.04m | PRI | FR | Bell, Jared
008 | SP | XX | 16.70m | BRO | JR | Clavette, Courtland
----
001 | TJ | 10 | 16.03m | PRI | SR | McLean, Damon
002 | TJ | 08 | 15.58m | COR | SR | Scott, Dan
003 | TJ | 06 | 15.50m | PRI | JR | Owusu-Nyanteky, Nana
004 | TJ | 04 | 15.16m | COR | SR | Bell, Steven
005 | TJ | 1.5 | 15.00m | COR | SR | Ojukwu, Kinsley
005 | TJ | 1.5 | 15.00m | COR | FR | Plummer, Robert
007 | TJ | XX | 14.81m | HAR | FR | Uwaifo, Efe
007 | TJ | XX | 14.81m | PRI | SO | Scinto, Jake
----
001 | WT | 10 | 19.77m | COR | SO | Rhodes, Bryan
002 | WT | 08 | 19.37m | HAR | JR | Glauser, Ben
003 | WT | 06 | 19.14m | COR | JR | Mozia, Stephen
004 | WT | 04 | 18.68m | COR | FR | Winkler, Rudy
005 | WT | 02 | 18.62m | HAR | SR | Brode, Dustin
006 | WT | 01 | 18.60m | HAR | FR | Whitener, Josh
007 | WT | XX | 18.15m | COL | SR | Dickerson, Duncan
008 | WT | XX | 18.10m | DAR | JR | Servino, Thomas
BREAKDOWN OF PRINCETON VS CORNELL:
60; 60H
29 Cornell
15 Princeton
400; 500
30 Cornell
10 Princeton
800; 1K; MILE
08 Cornell
20 Princeton
3K; 5K
00 Cornell
18 Princeton
JUMPS
43 Cornell
36.5 Princeton
THROWS
30 Cornell
04 Princeton
HEP & PV
23 Cornell
17 Princeton
Thanks, fun.! I took a quick look at the Ivy performance list (now that it seems to include all the weekend's results) and came up with the following breakdown for the men. NOTE that these totals (just whole numbers, btw) only summarize how the list looks now; look at the post from fun. if you want what's probably the best (current) prediction for Heps.
Individual track Harvard 59, Princeton 54, Cornell 45, Brown 34, Columbia 31, Dartmouth 26, Yale 16, Penn 14
Individual field Cornell 95, Princeton 46, Harvard 26, Penn 10, Yale 5, Dartmouth 2, Columbia 1, Brown 0
Combined "scoring" including all the above: Cornell 140, Princeton 100, Harvard 85, Brown 34, Columbia 32, Dartmouth 28, Penn 24, Yale 21
Heptathlon Brown 16, Cornell 10, Princeton 5
Combined "scoring" including everything but the relays: Cornell 150, Princeton 105, Harvard 85, Brown 50, Columbia 32, Dartmouth 28, Penn 24, Yale 21
Relays Princeton 24, Cornell 17, Dartmouth 16, Yale 12, Columbia 11, Brown and Penn and Harvard 4
Total "scores": Cornell 167, Princeton 129, Harvard 89, Brown 54, Dartmouth 44, Columbia 43, Yale 33, Penn 28
Quick notes
As might have been expected, the big gainer since my last tally: Princeton. They have by far the best event coverage, lacking top-six marks in only two events. We should expect multiple events from many Tigers, likely leading to scoring in events that they haven't done (at least not seriously) so far. As usual, this is most likely to show up in the middle-/distance events.
I accept fun.'s predictions, but note that as a whole Princeton seems to be pulling together fast; and, as I said last time, I expect this meet to come down to the relays. Cornell is looking a bit better there, having run a monster 4x400 this weekend and being able to put several fresh runners into the longer relays, if it chooses. [The Big Red have 31 men with top-ten marks; several in the 7-10 positions are unlikely to be entered, leaving lots of relay space on their 33-man roster.]
But be aware that recent injuries could play a significant role in this meet. If fun. runs another projection just before Heps, based on next week's actual confirmed entries, some events are going to look very different. 'Nuff said.
[quote]kibitzer wrote:
WOMEN (fractional scores rounded down)
Individual track Harvard 74, Dartmouth 53, Columbia 50, Cornell 44, Brown 14, Princeton 7, Yale and Penn 3
Individual field Harvard 42, Columbia 41, Princeton 29, Cornell 24, Dartmouth 17, Brown 14, Yale 10, Penn 8
Combined "scoring" including all the above: Harvard 116, Columbia 91, Dartmouth 70, Cornell 68, Princeton 36, Brown 28, Yale 13, Penn 11
Pentathlon Dartmouth 10, Cornell 8, Princeton 7, Harvard 6
Combined "scoring" including everything but the relays: Harvard 122, Columbia 91, Dartmouth 80, Cornell 76, Princeton 43, Brown 28, Yale 13, Penn 11
Relays Columbia 14, Cornell 12, Dartmouth 11, Harvard 9, Princeton and Yale 6, Penn 4, Brown 0
Total "scores": Harvard 131, Columbia 105, Dartmouth 91, Cornell 88, Princeton 49, Brown 28, Yale 19, Penn 15
The big winner since my last listing is Columbia, which vaults into a worthy second place, while Cornell (with atypical weakness in the longer races and hurdles) has fallen from second to fourth. Perhaps the biggest surprise is that Princeton has not moved closer to the Front Four.
I just can't see a scenario to move Dartmouth, many folks' sentimental favorite, over 100 points--or Harvard, short of multiple faceplants, under 110--so no home win for D and AD'A.
The only slim possibility for an upset win, as I see it, would be Columbia, which could pick up more points by doubling Neer and currently projects only a single point in the 400 (not bloody likely). OTOH Harvard currently projects zero in the 200, and with their 60/400 strength they should pick up points in that in-between race.
So: Harvard to defend, and possibly have the title wrapped up before the relays.
By the way, I don't mean to suggest that Abbey is all the senior strength on Dartmouth's team. Janae Dunchack, Megan Krumpoch, and Emmaline Berg have all scored multiple times in Heps competition, with several event wins among them.
My attempt at doing the women's scoring, but using the fun. method of using the last 3 years of personal bests for guidance. For a lot of the events (200, 400, 800, horizontal jumps), the PRs reflect more of the outdoor times. I did not include relays in this (but if I can add them in upon request). I did not pick which probable doubles/triples that multiple athletes could do at Heps, so I do have some of the top distance ladies doing the distance triple mile-3k-5k (which would be unlikely at Heps) and multi-eventers doing any events they made the scoring positions in.
I have removed some names in my listings due to these athletes no longer being on the school roster or have yet to do anything this year (i.e. Martina Salander of Harvard). I added in the change in points to overall score since I last presented these numbers.
Total score:
Brown - 34 (loss 7)
Columbia - 88 (gain 6)
Cornell - 70.75 (gain 3.75)
Dartmouth - 79.5 (gain 6.5)
Harvard - 92.3 (loss 13.5)
Penn - 13.75 (loss 1.25)
Princeton - 64.3 (gain 0.5)
Yale - 22 (gain 5)
Sprint scores:
Brown - 2
Columbia - 42
Cornell - 25
Dartmouth - 13
Harvard - 46
Penn - 9
Princeton - 18
Yale - 0
Distance scores:
Brown - 4
Columbia - 18
Cornell - 20
Dartmouth - 37
Harvard - 8
Penn - 0
Princeton - 4
Yale - 2
Horizontal Jump:
Brown - 8
Columbia - 20
Cornell - 17
Dartmouth - 3
Harvard - 0
Penn - 0
Princeton - 8
Yale - 6
Vertical Jump:
Brown - 0
Columbia - 6
Cornell - 0.75
Dartmouth - 13.8
Harvard - 9.3
Penn - 0.75
Princeton - 23.3
Yale - 8
Throws:
Brown - 20
Columbia - 2
Cornell - 0
Dartmouth - 3
Harvard - 25
Penn - 4
Princeton - 8
Yale - 0
Thanks, C/M! That fun.-style analysis makes it clearer (clearer than my stuff, anyway) that Harvard could have a real tussle with Columbia. That 4x400 could matter a lot in terms of determining final team places--and with those two (plus Cornell) fielding strong, but tired, squads, there could be some real drama.
"But be aware that recent injuries could play a significant role in this meet. If fun. runs another projection just before Heps, based on next week's actual confirmed entries, some events are going to look very different."
care to at least reveal what school?
fun. wrote:
care to at least reveal what school?
Well, I probably shouldn't.
First, more than one school potentially is involved; yet I don't have info about all the Ivies' recent injuries (if any), and don't want to give one team an advantage over another.
Second, and more important, I don't have even semi-official confirmation of any athletes' injury status! Everything I hear is secondhand (or worse) and has to go under the heading of speculation/rumor. (Coaches--shoot, everybody associated with teams--is being tightlipped this year. That's probably a good thing, actually.)
Even if I personally witnessed an apparent injury, something that looks pretty bad at the time can turn out to be nothing (a momentary cramp or twinge prompting a DNF, for one hypothetical example).
Your projections are still the gold standard. I just wanted everyone to be aware that things can change, and not to be too surprised if final declarations in a couple events differ meaningfully from what we expected.
If, on the other hand, all the major players arrive at Heps healthy, I'll be delighted at having been proved wrong!
I agree that the coaches seem to be a bit more tight-lipped this year. Even when asking for clarification on other items (like the Heps schedule), they are either hesitant to share in general or did not want their name included when sharing the information.
Well, HTC got it partly right but partly wrong:
"She did it!
"Jamie Greubel won the bronze medal this afternoon, piloting the USA-2 sled onto the Olympic medal podium. Greubel is the first HepsTrack female athlete to win an Olympic medal in 22 years (Lynn Jennings won the bronze at the 1992 Olympic Games in the 10,000 meters) and first Cornell alumnus to win a medal since 1960 (Bo Roberson won the silver medal in the 1960 Olympic Games in the long jump)."
Nope! Marion Greig, who was a member of the Cornell cross-country team for a time, won a medal in 1976--but also not in track:
http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/gr/marion-greig-1.html
BRF wrote:
Nope! Marion Greig, who was a member of the Cornell cross-country team for a time, won a medal in 1976--but also not in track:
http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/gr/marion-greig-1.html
Do you have any documentation to support this? When was she on the XC team? She's known for her rowing, which was what she got the bronze in.
I coached Marion Greig in cross country. She was on the team in 1974 or thereabouts but didn't last a full season. She was a pretty good runner but was savvy enough to sense that her future lay in crew, not cross.
I don't know whether you'd call her an actual Heps athlete, though: a) I didn't get the Ivy championships organized until a few years later (the first xc meet was 1976, after she'd won her medal); b) I think it was the 1980s when women's Ivy League meets first became formal "Heps" championships.
And I'm sure I don't have documentation of team memberships from back then. Maybe if Cornell has retained athletes' eligibility forms...
I think your post will work as proof. Thanks for the details.
Cornell held its Deneault meet on Saturday. Some who will be going to Heps did not compete. I expect that will also be true of other Ivy teams this weekend. A few things to report:
Justin McCollin went 7.82 in the 60. Adrian Jones ran 25.03 on Barton Hall's flat track and Kinsley Ojukwu had 49.23 for 400. Max Hairston improved his hurdles time to 7.92. Montez Blair HJed 2.24 (7-4 1/4). Jennifer Bush joined the Ivy logjam at 1.70 (5-7). Shannon Daniels LJed 5.61 and is the 4th Big Redster at 5.56 or farther this season. Stephen Mozia (SP) and Bryan Rhodes (WT) scared their seasonal bests with Mozia over 67ft and Rhodes over 64.