rojo wrote:
Everyone is jumping to conclusions before any facts come out.
Really?
rojo wrote:
Everyone is jumping to conclusions before any facts come out.
Really?
When the police asked Oscar what happened he said "I am not sure, I am stumped!"
AnotherLameJoke wrote:
When the police asked Oscar what happened he said "I am not sure, I am stumped!"
Just couldn't resist, could you?
Two families devastated, and that's what you come up with.
Even given SA's crime problems, he sounds paranoid-
Recent media interviews with Pistorius revealed he kept an assortment of weapons in his home, which lay behind the gates of a guarded estate.
In a profile published last year, Britain's Daily Mail wrote that one cricket bat and one baseball bat were kept stored behind his bedroom door, while a revolver lay by his bed and a machine gun by the window.
[quote]rojo wrote:
Everyone is jumping to conclusions before any facts come out.
It's very well this won't be that hard of a case to prove.
One piece of evidence will likely determine the whole thing.
The key question to me is - what time did the dead girl enter his place of residence?
-Rojo
How does a dead girl enter a bedroom, or any room for that matter?
If you've ever traveled to Africa, especially a country like SA or Kenya where you have some "wealthy" people (relatively speaking) and lots of poor people, you realize that armed robbery is much more of a threat than in the United States. I don't own a gun, but if I lived in a nice house in SA, I'd want a gun.
sad times for runners - Sammy Wanjiru dies, Suzy Favor disgraced, Pistorius in jail probably and disgraced definitely ...
sad stories all.
Yeah, evidence would suggest that he dosen't have a leg to stand on.
Oh no. This is too sad.
rojo wrote:
Everyone is jumping to conclusions before any facts come out.
It's very well this won't be that hard of a case to prove.
One piece of evidence will likely determine the whole thing.
The key question to me is - what time did the dead girl enter his place of residence?
The key thing to remember is the murder happened at 4 am.
1) If the development's security reveals the woman entered the complex well before 4 am, then Oscar Ps only possibly defense of "I was surprised and thought I was protecting myself" doesn't work. If she's there all night, he's done for. I don't want to hear an excuse of "We got in a fight. She slept in another bedroom and then surprised me by coming into mine."
Your going to have to have some really sick lawyer to claims insomnia, sleeping pills etc. Good luck with that.
2)If the development's security reveals the woman entered the complex at 4 am, then Oscar Ps only possibly defense of "I thought I was protecting myself" seems A LOT more believable, particularly in South Africa. Since he lives in such a safe place, it's going to take a little bit of lawyering but very doable.
-Rojo
PS. It's definitely different over there. I know a South African guy who told me on his farm he heard rustling outside his window. He grabbed a shot gun and started firing. That was his first reaction. Shoot first - ask questions later.
I said, "My God, wouldn't you try to scare them away first?"
Him: "No. what if they kill me first."
Me: "What happens if you had hit him?"
He's like "We'd bury the body on the farm."
agreed
Honest question to the lawyers: will police and detention personnel confiscate his artificial limbs for his own and the safety of other inmates? This is an issue that would seem appropriate, yet cruel at the same time.
ramapo wrote:
sad times for runners - Sammy Wanjiru dies, Suzy Favor disgraced, Pistorius in jail probably and disgraced definitely ...
sad stories all.
Sammy is the only sad story in there.
If they can joke about it, so can we.
take a look at Oscar's dogs by the way, quite the animal arsenal
Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:
This whole story is shocking. I mean, what were the odds that a gun nut would end up either killing someone he knew or end up dead himself?? This never happens. One in a million chance. I think the problem was the woman wasn't armed. If she had been, this whole thing could have been avoided.
Well put!
Maybe Oscar wasn't the LEGend we thought he was!
Normally I'd say a double amputee isn't a flight risk, but in Oscar P's case...
Brianruns10 wrote:
Normally I'd say a double amputee isn't a flight risk, but in Oscar P's case...
Yes, it's wrong to laugh about this, but....damn you guys have come up with some good ones. Yes, the situation is tragic, but...... wit is wit, even when it's in bad taste.
I will also add:
MANY people on this thread have alluded to the fact that the crime rate (especially by blacks) in south africa is horrendous, therefore, it totally makes sense that Oscar would be well-armed and shooting first and asking questions later.
So....if it turns out to be an accident, are we blaming the black man for this?? 'Cause that sure sounds like what y'all are going for with that line of thinking.
I can see the headline now: White Man accidentally kills White Girl, Black Race charged.
And if it was Oscar just flat out murdering her.....can we STILL blame the black man? I mean, if there wasn't so much crime, Oscar might not have guns, and if he didn't have guns, he might have just smacked her instead of shooting her, so......(and I know that sounds like I am blaming guns in some way, but no, I would never do that)...... STILL kinda the black man's fault?? Right?
Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:
Brianruns10 wrote:Normally I'd say a double amputee isn't a flight risk, but in Oscar P's case...
Yes, it's wrong to laugh about this, but....damn you guys have come up with some good ones. Yes, the situation is tragic, but...... wit is wit, even when it's in bad taste.
I will also add:
MANY people on this thread have alluded to the fact that the crime rate (especially by blacks) in south africa is horrendous, therefore, it totally makes sense that Oscar would be well-armed and shooting first and asking questions later.
So....if it turns out to be an accident, are we blaming the black man for this?? 'Cause that sure sounds like what y'all are going for with that line of thinking.
I can see the headline now: White Man accidentally kills White Girl, Black Race charged.
And if it was Oscar just flat out murdering her.....can we STILL blame the black man? I mean, if there wasn't so much crime, Oscar might not have guns, and if he didn't have guns, he might have just smacked her instead of shooting her, so......(and I know that sounds like I am blaming guns in some way, but no, I would never do that)...... STILL kinda the black man's fault?? Right?
Agreed.
I wonder if he was legless during the incident?