HEPS Track and Field 2012-13

Tired of this wrote:

TK1451 wrote:

When another team manages to beat Princeton at Heps they can criticize how Princeton handles their early-season garbage meets.

Boy, this kinda sums up a lot of what's happening in The Sport, doesn't it?

You know what, it *is* disrespectful to give less than your best effort at a meet (unless you know that you can win anyway).

You do realize that the Tigers won the meet in question by 60 points don't you? Callaghan had an injury since indoors last year and this was his first race in a long while. Regarding the Navy dual meet some of the team had only arrived back on campus a couple of days before and had the Armory meet less than a week later so clearly weren't going to be at full strength.

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As a Cornell guy I hope we can get the title this year - but I definitely don't understand how people can hate on princeton for putting up some controlled efforts early. These guys are just getting their feet wet - they will race hard when they are ready.

Pre-championships meets are not meaningless - but this meet was not a big one and not one Princeton was focusing on. They have been excellent in recent years and I don't see that changing anytime soon under Vig.

Oh boy.

Essentially, everything we have seen so far in terms of meet results are just "people getting their feet wet", particularly with the finals and winter holidays breaking up the season. It's hard to focus on the meets if you have those interruptions. Only 14 of the 16 teams have had a meet yet this indoor season (Columbia opens their season on Sunday with their tri-meet with Yale and Dartmouth), and even then, not all of the squads have had their best athletes compete. I feel like that after this upcoming weekend, we as fans will have a better sense as to how the teams are this year and begin to discuss with more evidence on how Heps will turn out.

Anywho, anyone have any idea on how the Yale-Columbia-Dartmouth tri-meet will turn out? I have a feeling that Columbia could win both meets due to the Columbia men having the strongest distance squad of the three and the Columbia women being very strong in the sprints and jumps, as the women's distance could all cancel each other out. Hopefully Waverly Neer is able to compete after needing to sit out the XC season.

Results from the YCD meet?! I can't find em. anyone?

YDC is Sunday (tomorrow). No results yet.

Should be a good meet. As usual, there should be some good distance battles. Abbey D is running the 1000 (a first?) so that should be fun to watch. I'm going to bet Columbia men and Dartmouth women take it.

Abby D interview after 4:34 mile at Dartmouth relays (video download was slow for me)

http://www.dartmouthsports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&db_oem_id=11600&id=1274205&ATCLID=&DB_MENU_ID=&SPSID=48781&SPID=4701&DB_OEM_ID=11600

Twitterverse is spreading rumors of another Dartmouth sweep at YDC, and that Abbey D'Agostino ran a 2:45.42 in the 1000m.

Also, Cornell's Montez Blair (7-5 1/4) and Stephen Mozia (65-3 1/2) dropped some bombs. Mozia's throw is better than Adam Nelson and Blair is the best indoor height with the modern conference alignment.

Finally, Harvard reset 5 school records yesterday at the Harvard Challenge: women's 60 (7.61), 500 (1:13.28), 1000 (2:49.06), and weight throw (19.22), and men's hurdles (8.02)

Cornell wins both sides of its Upstate Challenge:

http://cornellbigred.com/documents/2013/1/19/2013_Upstate_Challenge_Results.pdf?id=5132

Good competition in most events was provided by the other DI teams (Buffalo, Binghamton, Syracuse, Colgate), but the Big Red's superior event coverage made them easy winners.

The fireworks again came in the field, with Montez Blair and Stephen Mozia posting huge marks that have put them in second place in the NCAA standings: Blair, 2.27 (7-5 1/4) in the HJ, and Mozia 19.89 (65-3 1/4) in the shot!

I believe that Cornell (like several other Ivies) has not started spring-semester classes yet, but this meet featured most of their big guns.

A little bit about the CDY tri is posted on the Dartmouth site:

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NEW HAVEN, Conn - Another week, another first-place finish for the Dartmouth women's indoor track & field team. Sunday afternoon saw the Big Green head down to Yale's Coxe Cage where it came out on top, defeating both the Bulldogs and Columbia in Ivy League action.

The Green scored 76 points to win. The Lions claimed second place with 60, while the hosts finished third with 45.

Another win for the team and another school record and impressive showing by junior Abbey D'Agostino also seems to go hand-in-hand. The five-time All-American set a new Dartmouth standard in the 1000 meters, running a 2:45.42 to claim first.

Sunday's time by D'Agostino in the event was nearly four full seconds faster than the previous program mark of 2:49.41 set by Monica Adler '14.

In the mile, the runners in Green and White dominated, taking the top three spots. Junior Lindsay Walsh took first in 4:58.07 leading the trio that also included senior Katie Sullivan in second and sophomore Alison Lanois in third.

Freshman Kaitlin Whitehorn took first in the high jump, clearing a height of 5-7.0/1-7m to win the event.

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Nothing on Yale's site yet. Can you imagine Yale hosting a basketball game against Dartmouth, and not having the final score posted immediately?

YDC results on Direct Athletics:

http://directathletics.com/results/track/27498

Abbey's 1000m time is a new conference record.

Sharay Hale looks like only ran as a part of the 4x400.

BRF wrote:

Nothing on Yale's site yet. Can you imagine Yale hosting a basketball game against Dartmouth, and not having the final score posted immediately?

There was a lot of action at the cage this weekend. Big HS invite over two days. Results from that were late coming as well. Lots of kids. Heck they ran 7 or 8 heats in the 5K for both boys and girls.

It's doubtless jumping the gun, but I may try to put together a virtual Heps scoring (based solely on the tfrrs listings) after next weekend's action.

Or I might hold off a while: there may not be many 5,000/multi performances. We'll see. What the heck, it's all for fun, right?

Anyway, I glanced at the Ivy performance lists and my quick impression--based only on those--is that Cornell and Princeton will once again contend for the wins, both sexes (Princeton recruited with particular brilliance on the women's side); and that Harvard (both sexes) continues to emerge as a very potent threat. But obviously there's much, much action to come, and those lists will be seriously revamped. In particular, I think the Columbia women will establish themselves as having a real shot to defend their title.

A brief aside: I think the work on improving AD'Ag's shorter-distance speed is brilliant. Almost all the big breakthroughs (that I can recall seeing) for 5,000m runners' times have come after they've improved their times in shorter races. Could we see a sub-15:00 for her this year?

Speaking of times at 5,000 meters: I notice that K. Kellner and Sorna were absent from this past weekend's results, and that Cornell is scheduled to attend the Terrier Inv next weekend.

If they follow last year's pattern, I'd expect those two women to run the 5k at Boston. Should be interesting.

The race information sheet for the upstate challenge at Cornell had a 5K, provided there was interest. Apparently not. Only a few of those who might have run the 5k showed and they ran shorter distances. Cornell's Shearer ran 4:52 and Rosettie ran 10:01 - both pretty solid January times.

Grr...HTC was okay for a while, but now I'm getting the "Malware, This site contains links to viruses or other software programs that can reveal personal information stored or typed on your computer to malicious persons" message again. Since when is Brett malicious?

Anyway, what other action took place over the weekend?

Huh - I'm able to access the website fine this morning.

I took a stab at the team scores based on what is on TFRRS. The 5k, hept, and DMR do not have enough people to fill out the 10-8-6-4-2-1 format but I included them anyways (it helped Penn out in the 5k as they got all 18 points since they are the only ones who have done it so far). I did not break any field event ties.

Essentially, Cornell runs away with the meet based on the scores right now, as they are earning 10+ points in 10 individual events. I was surprised on how low Columbia is scoring right now as they are currently at the bottom. I am expecting Princeton to score higher since they have not used Dinkins or Holloman or McLean yet, and they will likely rack up more in the distance events.

Men team scores:

Cornell - 172.5

Princeton - 94.3

Harvard - 84

Penn - 75.3

Brown - 54

Yale - 42.5

Columbia - 25

Feel free to double check my math, but I think I did this right.

Breakdown:

Sprints: 60, HH, 400, 500

Cornell - 42

Penn - 25

Princeton - 20

Harvard - 18

Brown - 10

Columbia - 9

Yale & Dartmouth - 0

Mid-Distance: 800, 1000, mile

Princeton - 24

Brown - 20

Yale - 18

Dartmouth - 13

Cornell - 11

Columbia - 5

Penn - 2

Harvard - 0

Distance: 3000, 5000

Penn - 18

Princeton - 15

Cornell & Dartmouth - 8

Brown, Columbia, Harvard, & Yale - 0

Relays:

Yale - 17

Cornell & Penn - 16

Princeton - 14

Columbia & Harvard - 10

Brown - 4

Dartmouth - 3

Jumps:

Cornell - 58.5

Harvard - 20

Penn - 12.3

Brown - 10

Yale - 1.5

Columbia & Princeton - 1

Dartmouth - 0

Throws:

Harvard - 32

Cornell - 21

Yale - 6

Penn - 2

Princeton - 1

Brown, Columbia, & Dartmouth - 0

Just finished looking at the women rankings. Feel free to double check my work.

Same disclaimers as the men's scoring, but it looks like the 4x8 and 5k are the only incomplete events in terms of points. There are other events that only have 4 teams included but there are enough bodies to cover the point spread.

Like the men, Cornell would win the meet with a comfortable margin by dominating the sprints and jumps. Princeton leads the distance, while Brown takes the throws. Defending team champions, Columbia, will the athleticism of Hale and Neer in multiple events in order to get back in the hunt. Dartmouth is very strong right now in the middle distances. Not only will the final points end up being close, but I feel the meet will be exciting due to the number of new conference marks that could be set in the weight throw, hurdles, mile, and possibly 60.

Women team scores:

Cornell - 155.75

Princeton - 107

Dartmouth - 84.75

Harvard - 51.75

Columbia - 51

Yale - 30

Penn - 23.75

Brown - 18

Breakdown:

Sprints: 60, 200, 400, hurdles

Cornell - 37

Harvard - 27

Princeton - 20

Columbia - 14

Penn - 8

Yale & Dartmouth - 6

Mid-Distance: 800, mile

Dartmouth - 32

Cornell - 19

Princeton - 10

Yale - 1

Brown, Columbia, Harvard & Penn - 0

Distance: 3k, 5k

Princeton - 31

Cornell - 18

Yale - 11

Penn - 4

Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth & Harvard - 0

Relays:

Dartmouth - 16

Cornell - 14

Princeton & Columbia - 8

Yale - 7

Harvard - 4

Brown & Penn - 2

Jumps:

Cornell - 42.75

Princeton & Columbia - 28

Dartmouth - 12.75

Penn - 5.75

Yale - 3

Brown - 2

Harvard - 1.75

Throws:

Brown - 14

Harvard - 13

Cornell & Princeton - 10

Dartmouth - 8

Penn - 4

Yale - 2

Columbia - 1

Wow--thanks for your work, Mary!

I would expect Columbia, which just opened its indoor season this weekend, to be pretty much at the bottom for a while, then make a steady rise (both squads, but especially on the women's side).

Harvard is already looking pretty good, but they just have so much talent in the "technique" events--I'd expect them to move up, too.