cville_resident12 wrote:
I'm from the Charlottesville area and fairly connected with the running scene around here. From what I had heard Webb sustained a stress fracture which kept him out of training for the summer and most of the fall.
There is no need to even read past this sentence because we have heard this all before over and over again the past few years.
betterbutter wrote:
the bad news is the olympics are 8 months away and what the trials are 6 months away?
so by your accounts he should already be within 1-2 seconds of peak fitness, hold that for 6 months and then INCREASE that fitness by just 2% to be in olympic shape?
Congrats, you took my quote out of context and made me sound stupid. Had I not just made a point about his lack of consistency over the past FIVE years that will greatly affect his next 6-8 months of training?
Your point about the other top 1500 guys not racing is a good one too, because it's proof positive that they have no reason to race on January 6. They have been running at major world and US championships for years. Hell, we've watched Manzano run a 4:17 equivalent mid-summer, the difference is he also runs 3:50ish every year.
And if you read what people say about Alan on this website, you'd know that plenty of us WANT him to do well. Refusing to butter up a shitty performance at any time of year is not wishing ill-will on the poor guy. It's rationale that sits below your rosey-eyed optimism.
I want him to do well but this race was not a good, or even passing performance for him. Realistically when I heard he was racing I thought he'd go 1:52 to blow off the rust, then in a month be down to 1:48 or so and go from there. However if he's only got the wheels to go 1:55 right he shouldn't be entering races, just training, maybe do a time trial 600 or road race instead to help get back into form and back to racing.
And the Rupp thing was different, he's only run 1:49, that would be like Webb going 1:48 yesterday which I think most people on LRC would be satisifed with.
All that being said if there's one man on earth that could possibly go from 1:55 in January to 1:45 in July this is the guy.
inmyopinionisay wrote:
he looked terrible in the race. I don't think he lead at all.
Rono-esque?
http://www.letsrun.com/2007/RonoHCarlsbad07.JPGi was at the meet. he was wearing the nike warm-ups and uniform. i doubt nike will ever drop him
Didn't Rupp close a 10K in 1:55, or was that a 5K? He closed something in 1:55, I remember that!And Wow!
row row rowbury your boat wrote:
I don't see how this conversation can be intelligent, so I should just say "wow."
And comparing this to Rupp's performance is dismal at best.
I have!Just Wow!
Er... wrote:
Even Marshall Mathers has run faster than that!
inmyopinionisay wrote:
he looked terrible in the race. I don't think he lead at all. Prob split 28-56-1:25 and got run down in the last 50.
If he never led and finished second, how did he get run down in the last 50?
Watch the race and see how he got run down...
the way it was wrote:
inmyopinionisay wrote:he looked terrible in the race. I don't think he lead at all. Prob split 28-56-1:25 and got run down in the last 50.
If he never led and finished second, how did he get run down in the last 50?
He looks really top heavy and stiff.
have to say from his interview he does seem to have gained some perspective and isn't as crazy on himself as he used to be...maybe that actually will bode well for him. It's the first time I've ever heard him sound that relaxed and ok about a so so race.
He does sound upbeat in the interview and didn't sound surprised by his time.
Did sound unhappy about being beaten. To me (for a miler) he just looks too big and bulky. It's not a bad look, but I'm not sure it's helping him run a OlyTrials 1500m qualifier.
redux wrote:
He looks really top heavy and stiff.
He has put on all of his pre-Salazar weight. Pity.
Damn. Coach got him all jacked up again. He looked way better under Salazar. So much extra weight it's ridiculous.
Ok, he got passed with about a 100 to go when the third guy in line got the jump.
I wouldn't call that "getting run down." That usually means you have a gap you can't sustain.
He did run a pretty good 5K early last year with Rupp. I wonder why he doesn't just move up in distance.
steeplechase ?
I really don't understand why Webb doesn't become more of a 1500m/5000m man like Lagat. He has shown such potential at longer distances. Might as well give it a go at this point in your career.
Needs to drop some serious pounds before he is effective at any distance. Looked extremely top-heavy... its a shame after seeing him so lean and fit looking under Salazar.
If I had to guess I would say his coach decided this race was for the good of his psychology. Have him do some hard repeats and stick him in a shitty race so he can learn how to race without it being the biggest freaking deal in the world and just relax. I bet he could run 1:50-51 right now. Who knows how hard his workout before the race was?
He didn't seem bothered in the slightest by his performance. Some may call that a bad thing but I'm willing to bet he has something up his sleeve.
