bootsie wrote:
No. Frank Shorter is. Two olympic medals..
With due respect, you take 72' Shorter and put him in a major marathon and he'd be fighting to break the top 10.
World-class marathon running today is on a whole different level. It's easy to be superman when you're out in the lead there's no one around to challenge. It's an entirely different story when you're on world record pace through the half and there's 10 guys still around.
wnt2run wrote:
how sad that he only wants to be the best American.
Too bad Americans don't want to be the best sprinters in the world and beat Usain Bolt. He just wants it more. We're not willing to put in the hard work, or we just don't want it badly enough.
Ok, this seems ridiculous, but posters on here are implying the Hall does not beat the likes of Mosop, Mutai, Makau, et al because 1) he doesn't want it badly enough, or 2) he's not doing the right training.
Ryan needs to train at sea level to work on turnover...
...Moses Mosop trains in Iten @ ~7500ft...
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Bolt doesn't want it more, moron! He's gifted, plain and simple.
Ryan Hall busts his butt working out and is doing everything he can. There is a fine line between him and the top few guys. The guy is trying to close the gap and trying hard. Have you seen his workouts on GodTube? I have. Give him a break, he's an animal and will pop another great one, you naysayers will see.
He's a decent guy, he's honest and he's working his ass off, harder than 99% of the people on this board who complain about him.
Grow some or go back to your parent's basement. Pretty sad how he's treated on this site, pretty sad indeed.
David
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David Cramer wrote:
Bolt doesn't want it more, moron! He's gifted, plain and simple.
Well, that was my point in case you missed it. I was criticizing all of the posters who claim that Hall doesn't want it badly enough or train hard enough.
But calling people names without bothering to read their posts carefully does get them to take your pov seriously.
Link wrote:
Ryan looked like a linebacker out there compared to the guys he was running against. Sorry, but he is always going to lose races in the heat when up against that many guys who are that good, that small and who have spent the majority of their lives in equatorial Africa. If the weather had been 10 degrees cooler Ryan would have run 2 minutes faster and beaten at least one or two guys who beat him today. No one on Earth could have beaten Moses.
1. Africans have shown to be great wArm weather runners.
2. Ryan Hall has shown to be a tempo runner with an inability to change gears.
3. Ryan HAll has had a sub par performance in every warm weather race he has run.
Bangalangadanga wrote:
1. Africans have shown to be great wArm weather runners.
2. Ryan Hall has shown to be a tempo runner with an inability to change gears.
3. Ryan HAll has had a sub par performance in every warm weather race he has run.
There are plenty of Africans that have struggled in warm weather. Nearly all of the top marathon times have been run in cooler weather. I think Americans have this idea that it's really hot everywhere in Africa. Nearly all of the top African marathoners grew up and live at altitude in a relatively cool climate.
Hall hasn't had a sub par performance in every warm weather race he has run. His debut in London in 2007 was warmer than Chicago was this year. His warmest marathon was in Beijing, which was disappointing for those hoping he would medal, but a 10th place finish for Hall is in the range of where he would be expected to finish.
Bangalangadanga wrote:
FALSE 1. Africans have shown to be great wArm weather runners.
FALSE 2. Ryan Hall has shown to be a tempo runner with an inability to change gears.
FALSE 3. Ryan HAll has had a sub par performance in every warm weather race he has run.