I was talking with my ultra mates on out 5 x 18 session and we feel like everything that is sub 15 is quite respectable. If you're a chic. Sub 13 for men.
So rooughly like this:
sub 13 (sub 15 women) = elite.
sub 13:15 (sub 15:15) = sub-elite.
sub 13:25 (sub 15:30) = hobbyjogger.
everything slower: c'mon! Try harder.
And now I go on to run a couple more miles on a nice trail at sub 9-pace. Man... those ultras are hard races ;-)
High School Boys
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Sub 21:00 - poor
Sub 20:00 - mediocre
Sub 19:00 - average
Sub 18:00 - decent
Sub 17:00 - good
Sub 16:00 - great
Sub 15:00 - elite
Anybody who can place top 5 in local races catches my eye.
In my last local 5k these were the winning top 5 times (out of 630 people who entered the race).
Males
1st place 17:01
2nd place 17:13
3rd pace 18:19
4th pace 18:50
5th place 19:25
Females
1st place 19:52
2nd place 20:32
3rd place 21:12
4th place 21:58
5th place 22:13
Having said that, most of the people who place high in my
local races tend to be Masters runners.
5k hmmmmmm wrote:
At what pr (sub 20, sub 18, sub 17 etc.) do you start to take a guy seriously?
Anything under 25 minutes and I wouldn’t really class a person as out of shape.
For men (female equivalents in brackets):
30:00/35:00+ obese
26:00 (30:00) = About average fitness levels. Not exactly a total slob but would definitely benefit from more running
23:30 (27:00) = Not fast but I respect what you are doing for your health. At least you’re not sitting around all day. Probably fitter than about 70% of the population.
21:45 (24:55) = Decent runner, takes some consistant training. Fitter than 90% of the population.
20:30 (23:15) = Good runner, fairly competitive in local road races, will usually place in the top 20%. Fitter than 95% of the population.
18:30 (21:45) = Great runner, very competitive locally and will usually place top 3. Smashing it compared to almost everyone. You are obviously putting some good effort into not only your training but your lifestyle. This is about the mark where you can start considering yourself an athlete. Decent boxers and soccer players run around this.
16:00 (18:30) = Outstanding runner. This is where talent really seperates people, not a lot of people can get this fast. Would not embarrass themselves at a regional level. Professional boxers and soccer players would run around these times.
14:30 (17:00) = Sub elite runner. Very fast and obviously very fit. The very fastest boxers and soccer players would probably run these times with a few months of training. You should feel very good about yourself if you can run anywhere close to these times.
13:30 (15:45) = Elite runner. There are no words, you are a god.
That works out about right. Right now I'm at a 21:xx pace but have run sub-19 in the past. Trying to get back there.
some crazy runner guy wrote:
for males @ sea level
sub 24-off the couch and trying hard
sub 22-fun runner trying to get back in shape
sub 20-fun runner in decent shape
sub 19-fun runner top form
sub 18-good HS runner (able to win small local turkey trots)
sub 17-better HS runner
sub 16-great HS runner/ok college runner (D1)
sub 15-good college runner (D1)
sub 14-great college runner(D1)
sub 13:30 pro runner
sub 13:25 national caliber runner
sub 13:00 world class runner
sub 12:50 historical great
sub 12:40 track all time royalty
Better drug test those last three categories!
Under 15:00 for guys
I downloaded the race results of a local 5K.
Total runners: 2780
Median Time : 38:30
Runners under 20 minutes : 18
Runners under 25 minutes : 128
Therefore you could say, from this sample, that running under 25 minutes puts you in the 95th percentile in the general population.
What's your BMI?
PIK wrote:
I downloaded the race results of a local 5K.
Total runners: 2780
Median Time : 38:30
Runners under 20 minutes : 18
Runners under 25 minutes : 128
Therefore you could say, from this sample, that running under 25 minutes puts you in the 95th percentile in the general population.
I think a respectable time is sub 18:10.
(note: my PR is 18:09)
Based on UK parkrun times:
Men:
30 minutes or slower: elderly runner / injury prone / overweight / unfit
26-30 minutes: an average club runner
24-25 minutes: an average club runner who runs once or twice a week
22-23 minutes: runs consistently / doesn't run but has some natural ability
21 minutes: takes their running somewhat seriously or very seriously
20 minutes: structures their training or is young and very active
19 minutes: top club runner, puts the effort in, places top 20 at parkrun
18 minutes: top club runner with natural ability, places top 10 at parkrun
17 minutes: the best runner at the club, often finishes 1st at parkrun
16 minutes: talented, age often 30-45 with big egos and small peni ses
15 minutes: parkrun superstar
14 minutes: parkrun world record / not appropriate for them to take part
19:40 is the time to beat.
txRUNNERgirl wrote:
5k hmmmmmm wrote:
My breakdown
As far as guys not doing this for a living/scholarship I say:
Sub 22-Working on your fitness..congrats but keep going
Sub 20- Nice time, could talk training with this person, obviously takes running somewhat seriously
Sub 19- Into the 18's I say well done. Took a bit of commitment.
Sub 18-Respect. Decent 5k time. Would feel this runner takes running seriously and has either invested a lot or is very eager to improve
Sub 17-Into the 16's and Id say your legit. Serious runner...know the score, work hard.
Sub 16-Ballin. Anybody with a 15 in front of their PR is pretty awesome in my book
Sub 15-Superstar
I did the nerd work on my own. According to the IAAF conversion charts:
sub 22:00 Male = sub 31:18 Female
sub 20:00 Male = sub 27:35 Female
sub 19:00 Male = sub 25:44 Female
sub 18:00 Male = sub 23:53 Female
sub 17:00 Male = sub 22:01 Female
sub 16:00 Male = sub 20:10 Female
sub 15:00 Male = sub 18:19 Female
This would currently put me at "serious/legit." I'll take it, but do you really think a 16:xx male performance is the same as 20:xx-21:xx female performance? I kind of feel like the female conversion here is a little on the soft side, but maybe I have high standards. I guess this did say for NON-scholarship/pro runners, but still..
"I did the nerd work on my own. According to the IAAF conversion charts:
sub 22:00 Male = sub 31:18 Female"
Lol, no way that's anywhere close to correct.