Who pays for Centrowitz to chase the standards

Interesting to see how many people get so upset over a very innocuous question. My intent, was to get some clarification of the rules, in regards to this matter. There was never any hate on my part. Just wasting another day until tomorrow. Thanks, for everyone's assistance.

Hey, even in the days when athletes were peons, Pre was sent to Europe to compete before he even set foot on campus in Eugene. He was sent as a representative of his country. Centro is the American Champ, with work to do so he can represent his country as such at World Champs. What part of paying his expenses, as opposed to paying him a salary, is not in the best interests of USATF, meet promoters, or The World Championships itself, or athletics in general?

Just as paying his tuition is deemed in the interest of his university.

He can hardly be expected to hitch-hike to Europe. He's made a team, and making the traveling squad means your transportation, meals, and lodging are paid for.

In my state, and I'm sure in others, State Meet qualifiers in high school Cross-Country who have to travel far enough to stay overnight have their lodging, travel and meals paid for by the State School Activities Association.

Who pays wrote:

Is there an entry fee to get in a Diamond League event? No. It is by invitation only. Preferential treatment, due to an athletes reputation(U.S. Champion) is a prohibited form of payment. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2

Any NCAA student should be allowed to enter diamond league events, even if it's a 300 pound computer science major who wants to run the 100m dash. Anything else would be preferential treatment.

Who pays wrote:

Interesting to see how many people get so upset over a very innocuous question. My intent, was to get some clarification of the rules, in regards to this matter. There was never any hate on my part. Just wasting another day until tomorrow. Thanks, for everyone's assistance.

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Clearly you didn't just want clarification. Based on the level of stupidity of what you were posting, you've either done a great job of trolling (thus making you an asshole) or you're a dumb asshole. Either way...

this is really relevent to me braking 20 for 5k

Who pays wrote:

Is there an entry fee to get in a Diamond League event? No. It is by invitation only. Preferential treatment, due to an athletes reputation(U.S. Champion) is a prohibited form of payment. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2

You have to be trolling, no one could be this stupid.

Who pays wrote:

Is there an entry fee to get in a Diamond League event? No. It is by invitation only. Preferential treatment, due to an athletes reputation(U.S. Champion) is a prohibited form of payment. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2

Football players go to bowl games and receive hundreds of dollars in gifts. One year a team even got a private shopping spree at a best buy for up to $250. Where's that one covered in your rule book? Let the kid go to Europe and race and stop being bitter.

This is not preferential treatments. All students attending NCAA member institutions have the option of winning the USA Championship at 1500 meters and qualifying for the World Championship. If he has met the minimum requirements for the diamond league race then he is allowed to compete in it. Preferential treatment would be if the meet paid for him to have a car so he would come and run in one meet as opposed to another.

Who pays wrote:

Is there an entry fee to get in a Diamond League event? No. It is by invitation only. Preferential treatment, due to an athletes reputation(U.S. Champion) is a prohibited form of payment. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2

You guys do realize people receive full scholarships based on athletic ability? We are talking about compensation to run..... there it is right in front of you and there is nothing wrong with that. Colleges pay for the education, books, board, meals. Why wouldn't runners be able to receive enough money to go against the best competition without turning a profit.

I think it is funny you guys don't think he is getting paid now. Centro is driving around campus in a green and yellow Hummer on 26 inch rims with little swooshes on those rims. He rolled up to Track Town pizza bought the whole team pizza and paid for it all in cash from a money roll that must have had $10k in hundreds. Don't get me started on his house. How he hasn't gotten lost in it being 15000 square feet I don't know.

You're right, he will have great memories of this trip. And some might consider it a gift on one level, but clearly you know nothing about college athletics, let alone distance running. Did you even compete past middle school? There's nothing "free" about what he's doing. It's grueling work - putting in the time and effort to perform well when it counts most. You sound like someone that gets mad that athletes have nicer dorms or get better meals, while you and your frat buddies "play college" for 15 hours a week. Distance runners, and most college athletes for that matter, work a full time job while attending school. Better yet, you sound like people that think his scholarship is a "free ride". That's ridiculous.

His trip may be paid for but those who think travel is glamorous are the ones that do it least. So what if he gets a 1st class ticket? Are an extra 15" of leg room and 2 bags of peanuts supposed to constitute preferential treatment? Pathetic. Have you ever heard of college football? Players that attend a bowl game are given way more than an airline ticket to and from Orlando or Phoenix. Hotels, all meals, game tickets, iPods, gear, shoes, clothing, and even cash, to name a few, are given to those guys. And you know what? I'm okay with it b/c they have earned it, just like Centrowitz. It's not a gift, it is something they have earned. It's something Centrowitz has earned.

"I think it is funny you guys don't think he is getting paid now. Centro is driving around campus in a green and yellow Hummer on 26 inch rims with little swooshes on those rims. He rolled up to Track Town pizza bought the whole team pizza and paid for it all in cash from a money roll that must have had $10k in hundreds. Don't get me started on his house. How he hasn't gotten lost in it being 15000 square feet I don't know."

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Are you suggesting the Oregon boys are paid by Nike? That they get preferential treatment? That they have additional benefits? Unheard of! That Hummer and those hundreds are from working part time during the summer. And those anti-gravity treadmills and altitude tents are used by every NCAA college athlete in the country...

Check back to reality wrote:

Who pays wrote:

Is there an entry fee to get in a Diamond League event? No. It is by invitation only. Preferential treatment, due to an athletes reputation(U.S. Champion) is a prohibited form of payment. NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2

Football players go to bowl games and receive hundreds of dollars in gifts. One year a team even got a private shopping spree at a best buy for up to $250. Where's that one covered in your rule book? Let the kid go to Europe and race and stop being bitter.

You call a $250 best buy card a shopping "spree"?!?!...i can just hear it -ok I grabbed an ipod...my "spree" is done...i bet u got very little for xmas when u were a kid

Shut up. Shut up.

"I think it is funny you guys don't think he is getting paid now. Centro is driving around campus in a green and yellow Hummer on 26 inch rims with little swooshes on those rims. He rolled up to Track Town pizza bought the whole team pizza and paid for it all in cash from a money roll that must have had $10k in hundreds. Don't get me started on his house. How he hasn't gotten lost in it being 15000 square feet I don't know."

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"Are you suggesting the Oregon boys are paid by Nike? That they get preferential treatment? That they have additional benefits? Unheard of! That Hummer and those hundreds are from working part time during the summer. And those anti-gravity treadmills and altitude tents are used by every NCAA college athlete in the country..."

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You guys crack me up. Every one of your posts just builds the aura that Oregon has in the track and field world. Keep posting that they get all the girls, all the Nike money, cars, homes, cash....every top high schooler in the country will want to run for Oregon--if they don't already.

Congratulations Mr. Centrowitz. You've arrived. You're getting grilled on the Let's Run message boards.

My guess is that your level of running is not very high, so you probably never travelled to major meets like Mt. Sac or the Penn Relays. These meets are also for profit. Boston University makes a huge profit at their 2 indoor meets, which takes care of much of their seasonal operating costs. Does this mean that collegiates shouldn't attend? The Boston Indoor Games makes money for the meet promoter. Should collegians be banned from this meet as well? The NCAA is very clear on what is allowed in all sports, and this trip can be conducted in a completely legal manner.

"Who Pays", you are a tool. Be bitter elsewhere.

Cost of travel, food, hotel, the view from the hotel, and ogling along the way, are NOT considered compensation. Period. The invitee is not monetarily richer afterwards, and life experiences are not monetized. You don't like it? Take it up with the NCAA.

Also, NCAA allows competitions and try-outs during the summer, between the end of one academic year (spring) and the start of a next academic year(fall), as long as he's not paid for any of it.

These facts set aside, it might be argued that a college athlete gains in "brand", in marketing value, by participating in world championships. However, if that's your beef, then you should be ranting about the NCAA's BCS and March Madness, which are out-and-out money making enterprises built exclusively on the backs of NCAA-restricted amateurs, with only a few select athletes gaining in market value at the end (while assuming all the long term risk, from possible injury). Track world championships and the Olympics are no longer so craven. They remain a worldwide competition centered on a representation of country - now largely independent of amateur/professional status.

Actually,

Colleges have been paying the lionshare of track and field development in this country. Your logic isn't simply flawed, it is entirely backward.