Wake distance job?

So what's the latest? Any news / rumors? It's already July...

you should hire a coach that has had a success in producing an ok program to a great program... good luck in deciding!!!!!!!!

Come on Lets Run Community you're letting me down. Can no one on here have the inside scoop? What is Wake Forest going to do?

Speculator wrote:

Come on Lets Run Community you're letting me down. Can no one on here have the inside scoop? What is Wake Forest going to do?

i hear ya man, its driving me crazy. we have been without a coach almost all summer and its not easy training with nobody to report to

Wow, there is a lot of problems with this argument.

First, all you did was just take one line from this report and used it to justify your whole argument.

Yes, while the total operating expenses are higher at W&M, when you look at the average expense per athlete, Wake spent over 2.6 times more per athlete than W&M did ($2,388 to $904) because of the "much larger rosters at W&M." Plus these expenses are likely only just variable expenses, such as shoes, clothing, and travel.

Second, Wake has a much higher budget in terms of expenses that do not get allocated to just one team. If you look at expenses not allocated to gender/sport, Wake spent over 6 times more than W&M (W&M $2.4M to Wake's $14.7M). These are the main reason why Wake is more appealing, the improved athletic facilities and resources that apply to the total athletic department.

And third (and likely most important) factor is Wake Forest is going to pay the head of it's program more than W&M would. If you look at average salary for a Women's coach (to strip out the effect BB and FB coaches salaries skewing things) Wake's average women's head coach earns $96K compared to $53K at W&M.

Now it is possible Coach Gibby may not be interested in the Wake job for a number of other reasons, such as not wanting to deal with Wake's tough academic challenges, having to move to NC, a limited pool of runners to recruit from, or trying to rebuild a program, but W&M certainly does not "have the upper hand" and I would certainly say W&M has a "constrained budget" in comparison to Wake Forest

The two candidates remaining are from Notre Dame and Georgia. He also said there was someone from Oregon, but he withdrew.

I spoke with another coach at Wake about this. Unfortunately he couldn't remember their names specifically.

Jeff Pigg from UGA is one of the leading candidates, he will likely get the job.

Millar(ND) is an asst sprint coach and has a good record, but if he is a finalist, I worry about the future of the distance program. Maybe Wake will hire 2 coaches...one distance and one track. I had heard UVa had someone in the mix too (hunt?) what happened to him?

Word is Millar was offered the job on Friday.

That would be pretty ironic considering that Millar was a track coach at the University of Texas when Annie Bennett was an athlete there.

The president of Wake Forest, Nathan Hatch, came to Wake from Notre Dame, so I'm sure they probably met at some point during their time at Notre Dame.

Hey Bud wrote:

That would be pretty ironic considering that Millar was a track coach at the University of Texas when Annie Bennett was an athlete there.

The president of Wake Forest, Nathan Hatch, came to Wake from Notre Dame, so I'm sure they probably met at some point during their time at Notre Dame.

On the other hand, my post is full of non sequiturs, so I bet Wake will build a pretty good team next year.

Hi pal wrote:

Hey Bud wrote:

That would be pretty ironic considering that Millar was a track coach at the University of Texas when Annie Bennett was an athlete there.

The president of Wake Forest, Nathan Hatch, came to Wake from Notre Dame, so I'm sure they probably met at some point during their time at Notre Dame.

On the other hand, my post is full of non sequiturs, so I bet Wake will build a pretty good team next year.

Free flow on the computer. Not trying to write an essay. Thanks for contributing to this thread. Between the two of us we've now wasted two posts.

That's three. Oops, now four.

My point was, I don't see what your point was.

Hi pal wrote:

That's three. Oops, now four.

My point was, I don't see what your point was.

The first point was that it would ironic if Millar followed Annie Bennett as head coach at Wake since Millar had been a track coach at Texas when Bennett was an athlete there.

The second point was there is a connection between Notre Dame and Wake Forest with the current president at Wake Forest coming from an administrative position at Notre Dame.

Both of these points seem pertinent for this website and discussion.

Your point seems to be more along the lines of Andrew Breitbart and Fox News.

Millar is a finalist and is offered jobs every year, and every year he then turns them down. Maybe that is the only way he can get a raise at ND, or maybe he just likes to have his ego stroked each summer to make himself feel good.

Millar applies for a lot of jobs, but some of them aren't that great. One mid-major job he applied for, he would have had to take a salary cut to be the head coach. Not even sure why he submitted his application.

Not to be a complete jerk (too late), but these points seem to me to be mere coincidences of the type that happen all the time in college track. Your definition of pertinent is clearly at odds with mine. I attempted to make this point in one post, but failed, and so the useless post count is now up to 6....

And your last line is of course another non sequitur.

J-Mee was not directly coached by Esposito. Esposito was the distance coach at Mount Tabor. His high school record time was set working with his summer AAU coach.

To the person who disputed the 10.13 as wind aided, maybe but the 10.08 HS Record wasn't...

"He became the National High School record holder for 100 meters in 10.08 seconds at the Russell Blunt East Coast Invitational, matching the American Junior Record set by 2004 Olympic gold medalist Justin Gatlin in 2001. He also ran a 200 meter dash time of 20.32, which was the sixth-fastest ever by a U.S. prep athlete."

If Millar is in...who will coach distance? Will any of the current staff stay?