WARNING to those who run LATE on the Chicago Lakefront path

the liberator wrote:

Yes, you can get to the lakefront. First, take Cermak toward the lake as far as you can go. Then head north on Calumet ave, cross the metra teracks on the bridge at the 18th st metra stop (near soldier field).

Once you're on the lakefront, I'd run south - there's more greenspace and fewer interruptions that way. An out and back is probably easiest, although it would be easy to make a loop out of it and get back to chinatown on streets - there's a bridge over lake shore drive every half mile or so.

thanks...appreciate the good directions.

suburban guy wrote:

Born in the 60s wrote:

I grew up in Chicago and spent the greater part of my youth hanging out in this part of the lakefront in the 70's. News flash, it was violent back then too. I've seen all sorts of fights and other illegal activity down there. People who actually grew up in the city know how to deal with everyday urban life. It's the people who flock in from the suburbs or the corn belt that don't have a clue about navigating life in a real city.

Thanks. I'll carry an M-16 assault rifle with me on my next lakefront run to help me "navigate".

Better yet, stay in the suburbs.

Neb, you make a valid point.

But that still doesn't change the fact that UncleBlack's a little b!+ch.

Seoul and Tokyo are about 4 times more populated and yet 100 times safer than Chicago and the like. It's not a city problem. It's a U.S. socio-economic problem.

In our P.C. world our good hard working people put food on the table of our most lazy and criminal, only to have them turn around and assault or rob us for it, only to have their hand slapped for doing so.

Crime sentences should NOT be 3 hot meals, a clean bed and some timeline. It should require 8 hours of daily work and the completion of a 4 year degree with a minimum grade point of 2.5. If they want to be let back into society then they should be ready to contribute like the rest of society. Stop having chinese governments benefit from making our clothes and shoes, start having our prisoners do it. The american companies can pay less than minimum wage to these criminals, which in turn will pay for their room and board and food while in prison. No work, no food or shelter, just like the real world.

What they are too good to sew? They can assault someone for running or shoot people but they can't be made to put a product together? Instead it's foodstamps by the tax payers to 3 hot meals by the tax payers back to assaulting/terrorizing/robbing the tax payers and the cycle continues.

Have you ever seen the movie Gran Torino, just pretend your finger is a gun and all will be well my friends

Seriously, you should run for office. I am not being sarcastic. There are a lot of people who feel the same way, but few people willing to do anything about it.

They are like Locast, no matter where they are they DEVASTATE a area. Just like the Plage they can destroy whole communities. Doesn't matter that some scientist or expert can show that some Locast don't eat more than share, or bring no harm, it just doesn't matter that some Locast are good. As a group they can totally Annihilate communities in matter of years. Sure, individually some Locast are have a purpose, but put them all together and it becomes a living hell.

You know, if you are going to try and post an angry rant, you should consider learning how to spell our use spell check.

Moron.

Let's be nice to the young thugs. Think about their plight. In a few years, many of them will die violent deaths. The survivors will undergo many hours of painful surgery and recovery. Some of those will end up as quadriplegic or paraplegic. That's if they're lucky enough to be shot. Being stabbed is excruciatingly painful.

They will nearly all grow up in shoddy living conditions, usually stacked in a roach-infested apartment with countless other thugs. They will be subjected to frequent police raids. Air conditioning and heat is the exception. A nice meal for them is McDonalds, not the local steakhouse.

Few will ever meet their fathers. Dear ol' dad will never stick around to teach them how to field a ground ball. They'll never see dad get up early, work his tail off, and come home to be with his family for dinner. The rare young woman who gets married will not be given away by dad at her wedding because blood tests were never done to confirm paternity. Most of the thugs will have a handful of their own illegitimate children, thus continuing the cycle.

They will be in and out of the prison system, with its own inherent dangers. Many will never get past a middle school education. Violence and the "Thug Life" is glamorous to both young men and women. In many circles, the females are more violent than the males. The children have almost no chance.

Sucks for them, sucks for everyone else, too. Wish I had a solution.

malmo wrote:

stuck with e-Harmony.com wrote:

People that are in gangs are ridiculously stupid and immature. If they only knew how stupid they appear.

If gangbangers were worried about looking stupid and immature they wouldn't wear pants that hung down past their asses would they?

Apparently wearing the pants below their asses orignated from prison culture. The guys in prison who wear their pants are forced to by a domineering inmate. The pants below their asses signifies to the rest of the population that their someones bitch. So all you turds in the free world who wear your pants like this take note of this. I guess you'll fit in well when you get to prison with those that are someones boy toy.

Still doesn't give 'em the right to beat up, mug, and kill Americans trying to make an honest living--black or white.

malmo wrote:

stuck with e-Harmony.com wrote:

People that are in gangs are ridiculously stupid and immature. If they only knew how stupid they appear.

If gangbangers were worried about looking stupid and immature they wouldn't wear pants that hung down past their asses would they?

let's just come out and say it---you mean the 'gangbangers' as in, the blacks, right?

Can you imagine they were white people down there smacking blacks ? the media would have a fit and Obama would send Eric Holder there to straighten things out. Oh well, they are only white people.

Salad Tossers wrote:

Apparently wearing the pants below their asses orignated from prison culture. The guys in prison who wear their pants are forced to by a domineering inmate. The pants below their asses signifies to the rest of the population that their someones bitch. So all you turds in the free world who wear your pants like this take note of this. I guess you'll fit in well when you get to prison with those that are someones boy toy.

Let me Google that for you

DO NOT LISTEN TO HIS DIRECTIONS AND DO NOT GO JOGGING. You're in a new city, where you have no idea where u r and Cermak, to us Chicagoans is not a safe street. Don't do it, it is a very unsafe area, especially for a female.

[quote]Lucky Strike wrote:

"Where I live the majority of accidents in the suburbs tend to be caused by non-licensed drunk illegals."

Wow. Your racist induced illusions are world class

i, too, have e-mailed my alderman. i want to be safe on the lake and i want others to feel safe as well, especially families going to have a good time.

They were out again last night. I had a friend biking north around 6:30, while heading past the North Ave area he saw plenty of police cars and also plenty of kids looking to cause trouble. He slowed down to less than running speed while passing and one kid whacked him on the back with a pipe.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.