The Spanish athlete had enough room to pass, then the fading Ethiopian moved back on her

Just shut up you crybaby from Eugene. Oregon was shut out again in Berlin ;-) What a laugh ! You are just a sorry ass crybaby jealous of Shannon Rowbury of San Francisco, CALIFORNIA.

check this video, this is a typical darwin-esque survival of the fittest. Clearly, the Ethiopian chick is the one getting run over by her superior competition and seems purely helpless sandwiched in between these two alpha females.

The spanish alpha has done nothing wrong whatsoever, the ethiopian bottom feeder struggled around helplessly and a simple elbow put her on the ground. She will never survive.

http://www.ethiotube.net/video/5457/In-Close-Up--How-Gelete-Burka-Got-Pushed

After watchinjg that video we can see Rodriguez trying to squeeze through a space that was too small to get through. Dont watch their arms, watch Rodriguez' lower body. Her hips and legs are not small enough to get through that tiny space. If you look where she is trying to make the pass it is about a half a meter from the curb. She is clearly in violation and should be DQ'd. You can crash through a space that isn't big enough to fit into, and then shove your opponent with your arms and lower body. It was a good call by the officials.

After seeing that view I understand why the Spanish team didn't bother to appeal.

thank you for posting the video. case closed.

toro said:

"It's OK for the fading Ethiopian to move back if she still has position. If she moved back and clipped her heels that's one thing. But moving back in front is OK, especially since they were going into the turn."

You can't cut off another runner regardless of which lane they are in. If Burka moved back into lane 1 she would have faced DQ because she was impeding the Spaniard trying to pass on the inside.

I thought it was clear that Rodriguez fouled Burka in attempting to pass on the inside, but I have not spent much time reviewing the videos. She was correctly disqualified for violating rule 163.3 because she passed Burka while off the track, which is the material advantage that she gained by going onto the infield.

First of all, the attacking use of words like monkeys, assholes, idiot not only demeans and lowers the value of this LetsRun messageboard, but vacates the arguments of those thus using, and makes me rarely read the darn things. Grow up folks. Let's talk track, not trash. We can argue, we can disagree, but we must never call Africans monkeys, and really lessen ourselves with these other word choices.

The pass was done as they entered a curve, a normal time when a gap opened a bit might close. The front view on the IAAF highlights reel that someone suggested earlier makes it clear Rodriguez had seen a small gap, wished it larger, and was horridly boxed. So she made a quick decision to try the move that clearly there was not room for. She also pushed Burka as the fall started, in part a reflex to stay up, and enough to leave the track. I would have disqualified my own athlete, were I a coach, for such a move. I can see why she wanted the gap to work out, but think she would likely have won fair and square based on the final 200m had she waited for the normal opening on the final straight, or worked her way around. I did respect her for her actions after the race.

My last reading of the message board? You decide with your future posting. Free speech, but is it smart speech, or is it racist or nationalist or vile speech? LetsRun is sucha great website, the answer to years of my dreams for following track, and then a good half the message board folks sink to levels I had never imagined.

This video is the first frontal view camera shot that I have seen, and in it you can see that Burka is fatigued and unbalanced before any contact with anyone. After clearly beginning to lose her balance, Burka puts her right hand out and obstructs Jamal and after Jamal pushes her hand away, Burka then puts out her left hand and obstructs Rodriguez from passing. Rodriguez then puts out her right hand to maintain her balance and as a result of contact with Burka, takes one step on the infield with her left foot. Burka stumbled as a result of her fatigue and then fell because she lost her balance. Rodriguez should not have been DQ'd.

don't pass on the inside and this wouldn't be an issue... the spanish chick SHOULD have been dq'ed and i cheered when she was... hahahahaha... keep whining on this message board, but it wont change a thing!

Clearly, this is track and field's Kennedy assassination. Instead of watching a video where we say "back and to the left, back and to the left" it is "Rodriguez's arm swinging out, Burka fading" Personally, I can see some movement going on in a grassy knoll in the Tiergarten with about 260 meters remaining in the race.

Thanks good shot. Rodrigues clearly did not push or shove Burka. Burka really had her arms out and was impeding Rodriquez's progress. That said, Burka did fall from contact and Rodriquez didn't need to try and sqeeze through. It was a reckless move. She would have won anyway.

Tough call.

quote]Fanatic wrote:

http://www.ethiotube.net/video/5457/In-Close-Up--How-Gelete-Burka-Got-Pushed

This video is the first frontal view camera shot that I have seen, and in it you can see that Burka is fatigued and unbalanced before any contact with anyone. After clearly beginning to lose her balance, Burka puts her right hand out and obstructs Jamal and after Jamal pushes her hand away, Burka then puts out her left hand and obstructs Rodriguez from passing. Rodriguez then puts out her right hand to maintain her balance and as a result of contact with Burka, takes one step on the infield with her left foot. Burka stumbled as a result of her fatigue and then fell because she lost her balance. Rodriguez should not have been DQ'd.[/quote]

Bottomline: DQing Rodriguez for taking 1 x foot into the infield during contact in a 1500m race is weak. Particularly given all the bumping and grinding this week throughout the distance events. This is similar to NBA officials allowing rough play throughout the game and then calling it tight during the last 30 seconds. Ridiculous. NatRod should be applauded for quite the recovery and still winning. The Spanish athletic association through her under the bus.

Please, find a video showing the *entire* incident b/c the one you posted picks up after the initial contact b/w Rodriquez and Burka. Burka looks "fatigued" in this abbreviated video b/c she was clipped from behind by Rodriquez prior to the start of the video.

The Spanish Athelet was a stupid. I don't know if in Spain people do 1500m and kick boxing at the same time. Gelete Burka woud have won the game. I am very very happy to see the spanish stupid horse disqualified. Natalia should go to school to learn what a fair play means.

El atleta español fue stupide.Il no pasó, el español quiso pasar por force.prendre una posición clave es la técnica de sport.Je no sé si Atheletes España son 1500M y patear cuadro de la lucha contra la misma tiempo para que el español quería una pelea física, una course.J 'complació mucho cuando vi la descalificación del español. La prohibición de la IAAF fue repetir de nuevo aussi.Je Natalia Rodríguez es un estúpido, que no saben de ejecución, que ennervé.Elle me tengo que ir a la escuela para aprender lo que es Fair Play.

d advocate wrote:

Ethiopian kicked too soon, she was dying. I thought it was her fault.

Just saying.

here is the problem.

elite women are terrible racers.

they grow up running single file races, never in packs.

rodriques could have squeezed through there, hell i could have made it through that space, unless of course it was mcmullen wearing the Ethiopian jersey. one thing to note, burka had moved to the center outside to hold off the challenge, felt inside pressure and changed her armstrong to try and shut it down on the inside. in my humble opinion she impeded rod, and if this was on the homestretch in an 800m it would not have been a DQ.

Bottom line: you cannot legally pass someone on the infield -- whether it is one step or the entire straight. Getting yourself boxed is no defense.

Rule 163.4 says that you shall not be disqualified if you are forced off the track if you have not gained a material advantage. Rodriguez was behind Burka when she stepped off the track and ahead of Burka when she stepped back on.

Lickety Split....you are so right....DQ Rodriguez was not the answer!