goethe wrote:
why is this thread on the front page
Because I just posted.
Anyways, Le Tour is awesome.
goethe wrote:
why is this thread on the front page
Because I just posted.
Anyways, Le Tour is awesome.
Corticosteriods are not anabolic steroids. He had a prescription for the prescription strength hydrocortisone cream too for saddle sores. It is not a PED.
Scubas wrote:
He rubbed some steroid-containing cream on his ass in 1999, I believe, and that obviously wasn't seen as the reason he won the tour 7 times.. so it's never been proven he's doping.
I think Lance\'s performance this year puts doubt into the critics who say he doped all those other years. I don\'t believe there is any way he doped this year and he is still one of the best in the world. He also had a 4 year layoff. It could be possible that with consistent training he was really that much better than everyone else.
Beano wrote:
I think Lance's performance this year puts doubt into the critics who say he doped all those other years. I don't believe there is any way he doped this year and he is still one of the best in the world. He also had a 4 year layoff. It could be possible that with consistent training he was really that much better than everyone else.
I don't agree with this at all. There's no reason to think that he's less likely to dope this year than in the past. Lance has endless amounts of $$$ and that's all it takes to have a sophisticated doping program. Victor Conte said that all it takes is 100K and a chemist to develop a drug that can't be detected. Ask an experienced chemist and they will confirm this is true.
Lance is the most talented cyclist on the tour, but he's also a master doper. He's gotten away with it this long, he knows exactly what he's doing.
When did letsrun become lets bike?
gwalkerruns wrote:
When did letsrun become lets bike?
F**k you!
sorry guys but where can I go to follow everything?
BalcoMan wrote:
Beano wrote:I think Lance's performance this year puts doubt into the critics who say he doped all those other years. I don't believe there is any way he doped this year and he is still one of the best in the world. He also had a 4 year layoff. It could be possible that with consistent training he was really that much better than everyone else.
I don't agree with this at all. There's no reason to think that he's less likely to dope this year than in the past. Lance has endless amounts of $$$ and that's all it takes to have a sophisticated doping program. Victor Conte said that all it takes is 100K and a chemist to develop a drug that can't be detected. Ask an experienced chemist and they will confirm this is true.
Lance is the most talented cyclist on the tour, but he's also a master doper. He's gotten away with it this long, he knows exactly what he's doing.
So you mean to tell me Wada doesn't have the $$$ to hire a chemist to counter the dopers chemists?
It's easier to cover something up than to find it once it's undetectable.
Lance's Twitter was that they will need to repair the pavement on places where Alberto was pulling. Clearly he thought that Alberto pulled his share!
I want to know what Tyson and bolt are using now to run these times that would have smoked carl lewis and ben johnson.
The Jan wrote:
Looks like he needs more drugs.
Maybe Bekele and Hermens can help him out! ; )
the tracks may be few tenths/lap quicker than 20y ago
if carl was running nowdays in his prime, i'd suggest his 9.86pb woud be around 9.75 ( & his 200 around 19.4/19.5 )
not bad for a guy with a shit start & primarily a lj'er !!!
swimbikerun93 wrote:
Lance's Twitter was that they will need to repair the pavement on places where Alberto was pulling. Clearly he thought that Alberto pulled his share!
a fake LA account?
Yellow wrote:
sorry guys but where can I go to follow everything?
Cyclingnews.com
trialswatcher wrote:
What it means to me is that, either the rest of these guys were never that good, ot Lance surely was every bit beyond the Michael Jordan of cycling, when that means there is a no doubter about who is the best of all time in an era.
It does seem absurd to me, that Lance as a 37 year old with a good amount of time off, could still come back and even be remotely competitive, maybe a 12-15 guy, let alone third at any point of this.
....
Guy is absolutely amazing.
You are 100% correct. Maybe he doped when they all did, and he killed them all on an even playing field. Now, it is a much cleaner tour, and I absolutely think he is clean now, because he would be incredibly insane to risk everything he has accomplished by doping now. He really has little to gain and everything to lose by even racing at this stage in his life (even if clean, he could still get a false positive, or could be sabotaged). Yet he is doing it, and doing amazing.
He is truly one in a trillion.
No, it seems like his own
A lot of people defending Lance as a good team player. Here\'s a different point of view, must say I agree with it:
\"According to Armstrong, Contador’s attack in the final two kilometres of the climb defied team orders. “It wasn’t really to the plan, but I didn’t expect him to go by the plan. It’s no surprise,” he said, his tone scarcely concealing his anger. “When you’ve got a guy away, like I said all along, my obligation is to the team.” It was odd to hear Armstrong talk of his obligation to the team, only four days after helping to stitch up Contador on the road to La Grand Motte.
On Monday’s third stage the peloton split in the crosswinds about 30 kilometres from the finish. The Columbia team, who had done all of the work to bring back a breakaway and set up victory for their sprinter Mark Cavendish in Brignoles the previous day, were frustrated at the lack of co-operation in the peloton, and decided to make them pay by increasing the pace.
A subtle change of direction meant the wind was cutting across the bunch, forcing them to fan out across the width of the road and making a split inevitable. It was here Columbia upped the tempo and a gap opened. Twenty-seven riders went clear. Crucially, Armstrong made it with a couple of team-mates, while Contador missed out.
With 15 kilometres to go, Armstrong chose to exploit the break to his advantage, instructing his two team-mates, Yaroslav Popovych of Ukraine, and Haimar Zubeldia, another Spaniard, to assist Columbia. At the finish, Armstrong had gained 41 seconds, leapfrogging Contador by 19 seconds. The time gap was not important, the pecking order was.
Armstrong said that when the split happened he did not know where Contador was, which was no doubt true, but by the time he told his team-mates to co-operate, he knew. It was a calculated attempt to make the most of Contador’s naivety. For sure, it was Contador’s mistake. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time but L’Equipe, the French sports paper, summed it up: Armstrong traps Contador.
“Columbia were getting frustrated we weren’t helping. I’ve won the Tour seven times, why wouldn’t we work?” Armstrong said, by way of explanation. Presumably, that wasn’t part of the team plan either?\"
Source:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/cycling/article6686244.ece
(Lionel Birnie - author)
nothing really happened today...yawn.
but i am still picking A. Schleck for the win!!!!
Couple of things from Science of Sport.From Friday:
So now, the big question is: Why did Contador feel the need to go against the plan? Remember, Contador is not an impulsive, inferior rider, who lacks nous and experience as many have suggested so far - Contador is a sixth-year professional, one of only five men to have won the Vuelta, Giro and Tour, and has been at the very top of world cycling for the last three years. Yes, he is still learning, but he is not a brainless, raw talent that has not shown the ability to withstand pressure and race smartly in stage races before.
Therefore, it's wrong to portray him as reckless, impulsive and lacking logic in his riding, as many media outlets are now doing, and as Lance Armstrong has strategically portrayed him for the last few months. It is right to ask very seriously, why would a rider with that much class do something that goes against team orders? And the answer, I do believe, is that Contador has lost confidence in the team and the support he'll receive from it.
He therefore feels (rightly or wrongly) that he must assert himself on his own team, let alone the race. I would speculate that the attack today betrayed his difficult situation - obeying orders meant sitting in and letting Astana ride Lance Armstrong into eventual yellow, because Nocentini was only ever going to be a single day leader: the domestique in yellow, while Contador, the supposed team leader, is riding second wheel. In response, he felt the need to take matters into his own hands - I would do the same, and I hope he does it again and again with success in the coming days. Lance Armstrong's comments, including the little "addendum" that he "didn't expect him to go by the plan" are telling indicators that Astana's team dinners must be tense affairs.
Today: Race wants to be boring until Ventoux, Tourmalet wasted.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-pyrenees-are-over.htmlI'd like Andy Schleck to move up.