Where is the video.
Where is the video.
RunnerSpace wrote:
The race is up.
http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=videos&pg=1&event_id=43&video_id=8920&folder_id=-2&offset=0#video
I'm sueing you b******* for busting my eardrums.
That year McDougal made the mistake of running the 5,000 at Mt. Sac, where he ran 13:20 and then the 10,000 at Cardinal. He admitted he was tired from two cross-country trips in such a short span. No one can say what he would have run at Cardinal had he not run Mt. Sac, but I'm pretty confident he would have run a decent amount faster.
meaningless wrote:
FDFDFDFASDFD wrote:I believe Josh McDougal, had he been healthy all this time, could have run sub 27:45 at least. I think he just ran a stupid race at Stanford when Rupp ran 27:33. McDougal placed himself immediately at the back of the pack like an idiot and never got to the front in time for the break.
Maybe, but Rupp was able to bridge 30 meter gaps in that race while they were on 27:45 pace. Fact is McDougal couldn't do it, and was never in it that day. McDougal is good, but he has been able to pick off Rupp only when Rupp is not 100% and he is. Any other way, (both off, both on, Rupp on, McDougal off) Rupp has owned him.
And Rupp is certainly better than his old 27:33 mark now, so the point in mute. I don't mean to slam McDougal, but the point was if anyone had his marks or range, at 22 years old, and McDougal doesn't. Who knows he may emerge again and go further than any.
yes lets see what he does at worlds! will he improve over his olympic performance with ethiopians 1-2 out with injuries??? i just hope he can hold this type of form when it really counts (Worlds not NCAA Champs)
yes lets see what he does at worlds! will he improve over his olympic performance with ethiopians 1-2 out with injuries??? i just hope he can hold this type of form when it really counts (Worlds not NCAA Champs)
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F***ing nice!
please shut up.
this is not a fernandez thread, we all know he is talented.
is it so hard to be happy for rupp and not be so hard on him?
No love for Austin Abbott, nice run by him.
dubyU wrote:
No love for Austin Abbott, nice run by him.
Nice run and good finish.
a few comments on the run....
maybe he went out a little fast, causing him to look a little unsteady at the end..... everyone who runs close to Jennings is going to look a little choppy.. Rupp just looked like a 10K guy doing some decent speed work........its quite childish and rather sickening to mock a top 3 distance runner of the USA because of personal mannerisms and personality.
The point is mute? What does that mean?
Golden Boy treatment wrote:
The point is mute? What does that mean?
It's a really, really quiet one.
Nick O wrote:
please shut up.
this is not a fernandez thread, we all know he is talented.
is it so hard to be happy for rupp and not be so hard on him?
Agreed. This thread is pitiful even by Letsrun standards.
Rupp ran a 3:57.86 indoors, a time that many did not think was possible for him a couple of years ago. Rupp has had a phenomenal indoor season and is light years ahead of his 27:33 from a couple of years ago. He already has been and will continue to run faster times than he ever has before. American records will be threatened. This is a great story but some want to continue to tear him apart.
Let's leave Kenenisa Bekele out of this. Even Fernandez for that matter. Everyone knows what their PRs are. This is thread should be about a runner who is continuing to maximize his talent and getting better with every race. That's all one can ask for, whether you have the talent of Bekele, Webb, the local 16 minute 5Ker.
Absolutely right. One more word about teenagers running (adult) fast. It usually results in utter and complete burnout by the time their in the mid 20's. Almost always the same story...not many exeptions.
Let me ask you this, would you rather have a Fernandez running junior world records or winning the olympics years later?
I think the answer is clear, but we'll see what happens...
Him doubling up on the mile and a 3000 indoors makes me wonder if this might be a program that yet again is very short term...
...don't see Rupp doing anything like that...!!
You're stupid.
Fernandez hasn't come close to training as much as most of those teens in the past that you're probably thinking of. Why would he burn out? From 'running fast' alone? He certainly hasn't run excessive much mileage to this point in his career. He is extremely gifted. He just ran 3:55.0 BY HIMSELF. He has more upside than Galen did at the same point in their lives. Galen just ran 3 seconds slower in a competitive race.
Galen is almost 23 now. Fernandez turned 18 in the fall.
meaningless wrote: this`n`that & blahblah...
And Rupp is certainly better than his old 27:33 mark now, so the point in mute.[/b...] yada,yada
so the point is moot
Fastnbulbous wrote:
It's a bit much to expect anyone to challenge the 10K world record. Only three men in history have cracked 26:30 -- Bekele, Gebrselassie and Tergat. Running gods who will undoubtedly still be near the top of the list decades from now.
What is embarrassing is that our American record of 27:13 is only 148th on the all-time list. That's pretty lame, and it'll be long overdue if Rupp breaks 27:00 this summer, which would put him in the top 60. Much more respectable, or at least a decent start at respectability.
It doesn't help when runners pass over golden opportunities such as Bekele's rabbited world record attempt at last year's Pre. Bekele ended up running a stellar 26:25.97, and the only American in the race was Abdi, who came up short with 27:16.99. What if the race were stacked with our best Americans? Admittedly it was a bit too close to the Olympic Trials. So why not plan more races like that with better timing? Get the top talent over, and stack it. Send more athletes over to Bruxelles, Hengolo and Oslo where nearly all the records are set. There's rarely any Americans in those races.
Another problem of course is our top talent like Hall and Ritz focus too much on marathons, when they should probably work more on their 10k speed and limit themselves to one marathon a year.
I hope in the next several years, our top prospects of Rupp, McDougal, Fernandez, Derrick, Puskedra, etc. spend some time focusing on not just worlds and the Olympics, but those European races, and stay the hell away from marathons until they're older.
Send more athletes to Brussels? How exactly will these athletes be forced to go? You do realize that they have free will and make these decisions on their own? They are not in HS or college and moved around at the discretion of their coach. You do get this don't you?
That was the gayest sub 4 I have seen.
bullet wrote:
Absolutely right. One more word about teenagers running (adult) fast. It usually results in utter and complete burnout by the time their in the mid 20's. Almost always the same story...not many exeptions.
Let me ask you this, would you rather have a Fernandez running junior world records or winning the olympics years later?
I think the answer is clear, but we'll see what happens...
Him doubling up on the mile and a 3000 indoors makes me wonder if this might be a program that yet again is very short term...
...don't see Rupp doing anything like that...!!
hasn't rupp been doing a lot of stuff like that? he's been racing a lot more than German
pert wrote:
.......its quite childish and rather sickening to mock a top 3 distance runner of the USA because of personal mannerisms and personality.
Actually its quite adult to put down someone becuase of personal traits. That is why someone is cast as being marketable becuause of the way they look as compared to what they do.