CIM - Sacramento Updates / Results?

I just looked at the results-- he did it in 2004 (RM).

SactoRunner wrote:

For the sake of Skuj's sanity: Neil Holm, 41, finished 12th in 2:32:22, according to the top 100 results printed in the Sac Bee today.

Thanks Man! :)

Here's Bomba's race report, lifted from tnfnorth:

"....charles (Bedley) ran a fantastic race...PR by around 5 mins.......the two of us led the first few miles (*^%$*^$*%^ little african dudes wouldn't lead) at a surprising ly quick pace (at least palnned for myself and i think for him too as we had talked about 2:17 pace as opposed to 2:14 pace) but charles was very aggressive the first 9miles...around 10 miles the little african dudes (ok there was tall one) threw in a surge and we dropped charles (i thought we had lost him for good , but he said that he just felt they were putting too much out there).....me being the dumby i am am just kept on going (although myself and some army guy got dropped and then caught back up)

....at the half i was with the lead grp and feeling very relaxed in 1:017;15ish and charles said he was around 1:07:25-30.....

....the lead pack was myself, the african dudes (4 of them i think and the army guy) til about 16 miles when 3 of the african dudes threw in a surge and we broke into two packs (me, the army guy and one little african dude...apparently the guy who won last yr???)

.....i was rolling thru around 19miles when i altered my stride to get up on my toes (a little more track stride......big...no mak that huge mistake.....in a matter of 1min i went from thinking get me thru 2-3 more miles and i will hammer these guys into the ground into the point where i literally had to walk....shooting nerve pains down my legs)....at about ths time charles had apparently regrouped and as i was going down he went flying by....we dropped the army guy and the little african dude went with charles for a bit and then dropped out...i on the other had was in absolute turmoil, even though i was still in front of the army guy.....

...i literally walked/jogged the last 6miles (if i could have run a 5 1/2 min last mile i would have broken 2:30) min mile and finished around 2:35/36...i figured out that if i ran 7 min miles the last 6 miles i would have still have run around 2:25????i think

....apparently charles rally put the hammer down and caught the third little african dude around 22 miles as he had been dropped by the lead two guys....

...huge props to charles for running his own race and running a great last 7-8 miles......i kept on bugging him saying that people were going to go "who the hell is this guy!?"

30 ROB CONNER M40-44 963 M 43 01:20:04 02:39:53 02:39:53 00:06:06 4 PORTLAND OR

why did bomba go out in 1:07 if his best half is like 1:06? i think he crashed due to the fast pace and is making other excuses.

The "army guy" was me and I remember Bomba..just a note..I give the guy credit for going out like that..why? My best half marathon was 1:07:06 that I ran in September at the Philadelphia Half Marathon and I went out in 1:07:09 with the leaders..if you have trained your ass off and are prepared and most importantly..if you feel strong and your legs are reacting..you have to be a little gutsy sometimes and test the water...I held on for 4th and slowed to 1:12:22 for my second half..he fell back for 2:35 but he made the attempt and thats something far too many runners lack..the kenyans are human and this race showed it..if the pace is too quick they will crack..I ran with last years winner through 20 miles(1:44:05) and he dropped out..couldnt believe it as he looked strong.

-NP-

....Nate....sorry for the leaching from 15 on, but i was truly in unchartered territory and was simply in racing mode and just hoping to get thru to more comfortable distances like 5km......good 'survival' run over the last 6 miles...i didn't survive quite as well....we at least laid it on the line...can't say much more than that...

BTW my half may not be that great on paper, but i've been in much better shape than that (see tactical races).....and where did i write anything about making excuses.....i made a decision ( as i said in the race..well are u ready to commit or not and the decison was made...i didn't exactly plan it, but there was no one running 2:17 pace behind us....at least not that i saw.....i simply made a snap racing decision and it backfired (or maybe simply made me blow up worse) ....for me the whole race was purely instinctual (that has been what i've ben lacking in my racing for the last yr or so) so i was actually very happy with how things went down irrelevant of how i ended up at the finish......(which was in quite a bit of pain by the way)

You rock, denton.

Ditto.

...no i just have rocks in my head for going out at 2:14ish pace........

denton wrote: ...no i just have rocks in my head for going out at 2:14ish pace........

Denton

You have my respect brother..we went for it and am glad I could outrun atleast a few of the africans for you..it was a good day man..continued success in your upcoming races..again..you have my respect.

NP

#15's splits do look screwy, so I bet that they aren't quite right. I think he was planning a little more conservative that his first marathon attempt, but I doubt he was *that* cautious. A great first finish for him, though.

He definitely trained a lot for this race, so whoever told you he didn't (probably RC himself), was saying the typical stuff so he didn't have any pressure from outsiders on his performance. He ran well and trained hard for it.

Guys... it was great to see you run so well... but here in California we usually call people (even Africans!!!) by their names.

S k u j wrote:

Because I don't actually know the guy. I'm just stalking him because he's soooooo hot.

W.W.H.S.?

And you'd know what 'stalking' is all about wouldn't you?

It's funny it didn't bother you when he referred to Nate Pennington as 'the army guy'.

Africans are expected to run well, it's anticipated. So when a sub elite Canuck (or many Americans) race against Africans and there are several, they may say 'African' because they don't personally know all African's names off by heart.

Do you know all African's names off by heart?

sundog wrote:

Truthfully... the course is good for at least 1 to 2 minutes advantage. Plus, there is a lot less likelyhood of crashing. I ran a time there that I could not have run without the net drop. No way.

If you ran a good time there I believe you earned it. When I looked at course profile on the Web I was licking my chops but after 17 miles of racing on it at 7 mpm my legs were trash. From that point on each mile was slower than the one before as I staggered home in 3:09. This was my worst age-graded time in 14 races going back to May. I turn 62 in Feb. Until Sunday my races were improving with each step up in distance. In early November I averaged 6:47 pace with a slowest mile of 6:53 on a flat, certified loop 30k that had a fair amount of headwind. Give me a flat course ANY day over this so called "aided" one at CIM.

Admittedly I didn't do much at all in the way of long training runs on hills, which probably was my undoing, but there is still there is no way I'd call CIM an aided course. Keep in mind too that the net drop is 70-80 feet less than Boston, and I don't hear many people calling Boston an easy course.

Now that I got all the protesting and complaining out of the way, I think it's a good idea to use only "record eligible" courses for the trials and other important qualifying events. A certified loop or out and back is the fairest layout, imo, and acutally the ones I prefer to race on more than any of the others.