Here comes deer season.......

Two words for you!

BRAIN DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wrong my wife died of vCJD here in America, doctors here in America know that the disease is here, why wont they step out and say something? Do you remember Opra being sued by the American Beef Industry? 5 million dollars later she "won"> ! The doctors told me they have no desire to risk their carreers livelihood and money, not all of them have Opra's money to prove the disease is hear.

It is big buisness boys and big business does not sit still when you confront it!

I was challenged by doctors on live a talk radio show, i was interviewed by channell 28 NYC science reporter for 5 hours and filmed. they heard all of my research, stuff I dug hard for, hospital reports from my wifes illness, facts like 1 person heads the agency here in the US That is suppose to protect our beef, that person oversees 100 other people, they only test and dissect 1,00o head of the over 15 million head of cattle in this country any given recent year. Woe thats a great safety barrier. It wore me out to watch helplessly as this disease devoured my wife, who was a healthy runner, could do 100 guy push ups. etc, etc. Channel 28 never aired my story they told me some on ehigh up thought it would be "unwise" I am no green peace bullshitter, non hunter type, but you will no longer find me nibbling steak or venison.

Maybe I missed it in one of your many posts, but was it a result of eating beef or venison? In New York area? Sorry for your loss and may God protect and bless you!

There is a large Metropark (similar to a State Park) near me where the deer are protected year round. On a run there a few years ago, I was running around sunset (my best time) along a path that goes for several miles on an autumn evening. A few miles into the run, I was feeling great, getting a great buzz, and cruising along at 6:00 pace. All of a sudden, I came across a herd of about 50-60 deer. Amazingly, they took off in the same direction I was running, so I was actually in the middle of the pack with them for about a half mile or so (they obviously weren't going that fast). During that, I could have literally reach out on all sides of me and touched them. One of the most amazing running experiences I've ever had.

Kiwi, you must run light like an Indian. With my flat footed running strike, they would have heard me a mile away.

Jim Tharp. Thanks for helping me bring sanity to this thread - just in case anyone thinks we are the same person - no freakin' way - wejo can go look. Sorry about your wife if that is a true story - actually I must say it sounds a little difficult to believe though, but I'm not calling you a liar, just that it sounds difficult to believe - not very many people in the US have come down with vCJD - only CJD, but since I don't know you or your wife for sure, I can't say for sure.

Regardless of whether that part of your story is true, you are right on about how beef is big business and they would do almost anything to keep things a secret if it did start to happen here.

We are wondering if winner is Jim after reading winners last post and knowing his ways, hopefully not as this is seriuous stuff! If you are real, Jim, we are so sorry.......just have doubts however.

Everybody,

Be assured that I am not Jim - I realize that I come off as arrogant, but that's just too bad - I know what I know about certain topics, BUT I would never fabricate another person and then tell a story like that to support my case - again, I beg wejo to check IP addresses, and NO I didn't send it from a friend's house or anything like that - I swear on all that is holy that that Jim person is not me. I knew it might sound like the two of us might be the same person, and that is why I posted the last post. I too am skeptical of the wife story, but he did have the knowledge about vCJD and prions, and unless you are a scientist or had personal experience, I'm not sure you'd be right on like he was.

This cooler weather has got my "neck selling up"! YEEHAW!

I am heading to the woods this weekend and doing some scouting and hanging some deer stands.

Thanks,

Beef.

Winner,

The same group of neurologist who saw my wif saw another patient who was a male, he had the same disease, he passed away in Oct. 2000. His wife has yet to recieve the results of the autopsi, finally she pressed the doctors for a answer they told her that no one wanted to touch the dura matter and therefore they could not tell her specifically if it was vCJD or CJD that took her husbands life. Doctors are that scared of this stuff, and rightly so.

During my radio interview a doctor from Mass. General said he would contact me, and that he and his colleges would do an autopsi at the time of death, and if they found it was vCJD they would come forth publically with the truth. He never called. Nor did the Neuroligist who saw my wife, who told me that she and the other doctors who saw my wife were convinced that she had vCJD, they never called, in fact a few days later in a front page interview in the Hartford Courant she totally back pedalled and sai at first they thought it was vCJD, but later decided that it was CJD. A s crazy as that sounds it is the truth so help me God. That same article in the Courant states that determination between the two diseases can only be made at autopsi, yet she states that they decided that it was CJD instead of vCJD.

I gathered all the hospital records and sent them to Garrett Condon the writer of the article he said he would publish it as a rebuttal. He never did. He also told me he had found 5 other people in the Hartford area who had recently died of either CJD or vCJD, he said he was going to interview their families and write an article on his findings, he never did.

I'm real, my wife was real, you can get a copy (front page article) of The Hartford Courant Thursday February 15th 2001

the picture an dthe story tell it all. That is probably avaible online ,I don't know, not that great with the computer stuff yet.

Jim

For those interested, there was a rather extensive NOVA episode on PBS a year or two ago concerning mad cow, scrappie, CJD, and kuru. Quite alarming actually. Two things stuck with me: the prions are basically indestructible and a human may not show any outward signs of problems even years after the ingestion of tainted meat products, but the results are always the same: death (no cure).

Here's a good read on the food industry and current practices: Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser. You'd think it was about nutrition from the title, but it focuses more on the social, economic, and political considerations. It was a quick read and definitely worthwhile IMO.

Jim,

If you are a fake, you're doing a great job. You are describing exactly what the CDC (Center for Disease Control) runs into regarding trying to document cases of disease. In your wife's case, the doctors are afraid to investigate further. In many other cases, lets say someone comes down with spinal mengitis and then that case gets documented. It is common for a doctor when treating other people in the same area with similar symptoms to just treat it as if it were spinal mengitis because the test is expensive and the cure would cover many other things that it could be, so there might be lots more cases than actually get documented.

Any way, I am sorry to hear about your wife.

Anyone have any luck scouting this weekend?

Sammy, yes it was a nice cool weekend here in the South. The deer seemed to be active and I saw a few that had already shed their velvet. Bow season begins here next Saturday. I will miss opening morning due to a road race 10k that I am running, but should be sitting on a stand that afternoon.

Would ya'll please delete this post before one person posts and makes our first "century" 100 post in a while?

the sencca post made 100 just 2 days ago

Tm