Tegenkamp runs 13:05

bohemian wrote:

Here's the question, why does Tegenkamp have a 21-sec PR this year? And if he can run sub-13:10, can others too? Goucher might. Ritz said he's done for the summer (should have raced through July, though) and has been in 10K/marathon mode for the past year. Hall is up and down, but could bust one. Torres?... no. Webb probably has a very good chance.

teg dropped his PR by 21 seconds because he's not in college anymore. let's just say the teg liked a good party. maybe he still does, but i doubt the pull is as strong if he is, as others say, engaged.

In college you race a lot more. I don't think it has anything to do with is "partying". Now he can focus on his training and specifically train for the 5k instead of just race, race, race, race, like most do in college.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

In college you race a lot more. I don't think it has anything to do with is "partying". Now he can focus on his training and specifically train for the 5k instead of just race, race, race, race, like most do in college.

Alan

No one can seriously accuse the Wisconsin guys of overracing.

Like the man himself has said over and over, he owes his improvment to a long string of uninterrupted training.

KevinM wrote:Like the man himself has said over and over, he owes his improvment to a long string of uninterrupted training.

And also a body that finally adjusted to the growth spurt he had in college. He said he grew about four inches in college, if memory serves me correctly.

Plus he drinks 48 Red Bulls a day. You would think it would have a detrimental effect, but oddly enough the sugar high stays for exactly 5,000m.

MarathonMind wrote:

That math is ridiculous. The rounding each side of 25 causes one to need 10 minutes for the 3rd mile, and only 5 for the 3rd, but hopefully, nobody is running for less than 30 minutes for any given workout.

the point is to deemphasive mileage. how many runners do you know, as is often pointed out, who will take laps around the block because they don't want to put 6.5 miles instead of 7 in their log? how many go out for short runs to pad mileage?

jehs wrote:

Excellent interview with Matt:

http://www.paulmcmullen.com/show_details.aspx?sid=40

and gouch was like "whoa thats enough of that" and ryan hall was like "oh man, i dont know where this is going but i dont think i can hack it anymore."

no disrespect to paul mcmullen as a runner but he is a TERRIBLE interviewer. teg barely had any time to talk.

Goombah wrote:

Why are/have Americans been so afraid of racing in Europe? HELLOOOOOOOOO get your asses on a plane and you'll run fast times. You ain't gonna run 13:00 at the Stanford INvite.

Uhhh, because running a 13:05 for a white american will normally hurts like hell.

any race hurts like hell, if it doesn't you aren't trying hard enough, people just need to get over it, they have the training and the talent, they are just afraid to race when they don't have a chance to win

JGfan wrote:

You missed John Gregorek @ 13:17 in the early - mid 80s

He missed more than Gregorek.

12:58.21 Robert Kennedy Zurich SUI 14 Aug 1996 #1

12:58.75 ----2 Kennedy Stockholm SWE 08 Jul 1996

12:59.29 Bernard Lagat Berlin GER 04 Sep 2005 #2

13:01.15 Sydney Maree Oslo NOR 27 Jul 1985 #3

13:02.93 ----3 Kennedy Oslo NOR 22 Jul 1994

13:03.37 ----4 Kennedy Zurich SUI 16 Aug 1995

13:03.57 ----5 Kennedy Berlin GER 01 Sep 1998

13:04.04 ----6 Kennedy Milano ITA 07 Sep 1996

13:04.90 Matt Tegenkamp Stockholm SWE 25 Jul 2006 #4

13:05.18 ----7 Kennedy Rome ITA 14 Jul 1998

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13:05.54 ----8 Kennedy Zurich SUI 11 Aug 1999

13:05.93 ----9 Kennedy Villeneuve d'Ascq FRA 08 Jul 1994

13:06.12 ----10 Kennedy Berlin GER 30 Aug 1996

13:06.62 ----11 Kennedy Stockholm SWE 07 Jul 1997

13:07.71 ----12 Kennedy Zurich SUI 13 Aug 1997

13:08.43 ----13 Kennedy Rome ITA 07 Jul 1999

13:09.64 ----14 Kennedy Oslo NOR 21 Jul 1995

13:10.00 Adam Goucher Heusden BEL 22 Jul 2006 #5

13:10.19 ----2 Goucher Heusden BEL 23 Jul 2005

13:10.86 Alan Webb Berlin GER 04 Sep 2005 #6

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13:11.25 ----3 Goucher Zurich SUI 11 Aug 1999

13:11.77 Mebrahtom Keflezighi Heusden BEL 05 Aug 2000 #7

13:11.77 Tim Broe Oslo NOR 29 Jul 2005 #8

13:11.93 Alberto Salazar Stockholm SWE 06 Jul 1982 #9

13:12.14 ----15 Kennedy Eugene OR USA 26 May 1996

13:12.35 ----16 Kennedy Atlanta GA USA 03 Aug 1996

13:12.76 ----2 Broe Carson CA USA 24 Jun 2005

13:12.91 Matt Centrowitz Eugene OR USA 05 Jun 1982 #10

13:12.98 ----17 Kennedy Zurich SUI 17 Aug 1994

13:13.32 Abdihakim Abdirahman London ENG 22 Jul 2005 #11

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13:13.49 Bruce Bickford Oslo NOR 27 Jun 1985 #12

13:13.75 ----2 Abdirahman Oslo NOR 29 Jul 2005

13:13.84 ----2 Sydney Maree Brussels BEL 25 Aug 1989

13:13.93 ----3 Broe London ENG 22 Jul 2005

13:14.32 ----2 Lagat (Indianapolis) '06

13:14.62 ----3 Maree Rome ITA 10 Sep 1986

13:14.71 ----3 Lagat Walnut CA USA 15 Apr 2005

13:14.80 Bill McChesney Zurich SUI 18 Aug 1982 #13

13:14.91 ----18 Kennedy Oslo NOR 10 Jul 1993

13:15.00 ----2 Tegenkamp (Indianopolis) '06

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13:15.06 Marty Liquori Dusseldorf GER 04 Sep 1977 #14

13:15.07 ----4 Maree Oslo NOR 04 Jul 1987

13:15.33 Ian Dobson Carson CA USA 24 Jun 2005 #15

13:15.39 ----19 Kennedy Melbourne AUS 25 Feb 1998

13:15.44 Doug Padilla Helsinki FIN 04 Jul 1985 #16

13:15.72 ----2 Salazar Eugene OR USA 05 Jun 1982

13:15.77 ----2 McChesney Eugene OR USA 16 May 1981

13:15.85 ----5 Maree Hengelo NED 14 Aug 1988

13:15.86 Jim Spivey Berlin GER 30 Aug 1994 #17

13:16.02 Dan Browne Heusden BEL 31 Jul 2004 #18

13:16.03 Ryan Hall Carson CA USA 24 Jun 2005 #19

13:16.06 ----2 Liquori Zurich SUI 24 Aug 1977

13:16.21 ----3 Liquori Stockholm SWE 04 Jul 1978

13:16.42 ----2 Padilla Indianapolis IN USA 16 Jun 1985

13:16.61 Dathan Ritzenhein (Indianpolis) '06 #20

13:17.44 John Gregorek (1987) #21

13:17.91 ----2 Ritzenhein Rome ITA 14 Jul 2006

13:18.19 Ralph King (1982) #22

13:18.50 Nicholas Rogers (2000) #23

13:18.54 Mark Nenow (1984) #24

13:19.1m Craig Virgin (1980) #25

13:19.22 Rudy Chapa (1979) #26

13:19.37 Steve Plasencia (1985) #26

13:19.40 Duncan MacDonald (1976) #28

13:19.50 Todd Williams (1995) #29

13:19.60 Ryan Wilson (1999) #30

13:19.62 Paul Cummings (1982) #31

13:19.73 Jim Hill (1983) #32

Malmo, it is amazing how often people forget Bruce Bickford in general and his 13:13 in particular.

Wow, Ritz isn't in the top 50 US all time performances. Also, the list looks like Bob Kennedy's travel itinerary.

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Teg and Jerry seem to have a good system going on. He did some shorter races early in the year to get the speed he would need in a European race. Then Teg went over to Europe on about the 11th and ran a pair of 1500m's...staying over there the whole time to get used to it. After being in Europe for a couple weeks he was well adjusted and ready to rip off this great run. Being in the perfect race didn't hurt either. Very well structured summer for Matt. There are a lot more eyes on him now, let's hope he can handle the new pressure and churn out some more PRs in the next few years.

Yes it was very smart to run 2 1500 races before the main race at 5k. He gets used to the fast pace without wasting much energy and the 1500 is more tactical. Other americas runs slow 5ks before the big one...then expects to run a super-fast 5k after that, but the pace are killing them.

yea wrote:

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You can't read.

Sometimes a runner, like Teg, who had some disappointments in college (but got a taste of success, like in World Junior XC) will feel like they have something to prove. He has had two excellent summers (I am sorry, but whoever said that he did not do anything last year does not have a clue) His 13:25, 7:43 and 3:39 were nice PR's!!! His 3:56 and 3:38 and 8:16 and 13:15 were good seasons (but they were just nice "tune-ups" for Matt because his training is "clicking" and he is healthy. Does anyone know what he and Goucher, etc are running at the Oregon meet in early August???? It will be interesting to see how he handles an "extended seasopn" for the first time (racing clear up to World Cup in late September. Good luck to our brightest young distance runner!!!!!!

riff raff wrote:

.... Then Teg went over to Europe on about the 11th and ran a pair of 1500m's...staying over there the whole time to get used to it. After being in Europe for a couple weeks he was well adjusted and ready to rip off this great run. Being in the perfect race didn't hurt either....

Yes, Tegenkamp used some smarts in his planning. Wish I could say the same for Ritz, traveling to Europe and running 2 5K's in 10 days. He should have stayed longer, and been in the same race as Tegenkamp.

But, maybe this shows that Ritz does not care that much about 5K, instead concentrating on the marathon and then maybe the 10K. Still, he could have moved up in the all-time US standings quite nicely with just a 3-4 second 5K improvement.

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