if bicarb really works that well, the 800 is ruined

blood doping before it was made illegal, allegedly

Then, according to Armstronglivs, he must have been a doper.

Burritos

You have misunderstood, no bicarb does not make it easy or even easier it just makes the field faster. It buffers the lactate, enabling the athletes to tolerate higher levels of lactate and thus run faster. In the end it does not get easier if most of the field are using it. If anytging it makes the 800 even harder because it adds an additional dimention to racing: the risk of sh*tting yourself due to too much bicarb. That might be good tv on diamond league.

That's because you side with those who work amongst dopers.

Most races are metric, including of course the Olympics and WC. You have no idea about how the sport has developed.

So what were the drugs md runners were on in '62? That isnt what I was saying. It is that 1:42 has become routine now. That's doping.

"In the end it does not get easier if most of the field are using it."

You could say the same about any kind of doping. But the claim isn't that the race is getting "easier" - whatever that means - but that times are getting consistently faster.

Soda biscuits have been around forever. They are what allowed mushers to run behind dog sleds.

A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study published in European Journal of Applied Physiology showed that trained male cyclists improved their 40 km time trial performance by about 1.4 %, roughly equivalent to shaving off one minute on a 60-minute ride, when using Maurten’s Bicarb System versus placebo

That's because I side with facts.

You always contradict yourself. But now you concede an athlete can run 1:42 clean. You are dismissed.

"Whatever that means"... It means you don't know anything about physiology.

Only the ones that suit. The rest are falsehoods.

Faster doesn't mean "easier" if the effort is the same. Basic logic - if you knew anything about that.

That isn't what I was saying but you can be trusted not to get it. 1:42 today is becoming like 1:44 used to be even recently. That's what doping has enabled.

Yes, it does. In the 800m it does. Basic running knowledge - if you knew anything about that.

Interesting observation! I agree, it's the final 200 meters that keep the 800-meter race exciting—the entire race is based on a balance of form and speed. Any “tricks” that remove this element certainly result in fast times, but the whole essence of the competition is lost. It is the struggle against one's own limits that makes every race exciting.

If 1:42 is "easier" than what they used to be able to run then they could run faster - and probably faster than 1:40.9. You have no idea what you are talking about. You differ for the sake of it because you are obsessed with my posts.