“Valby does not yet deserve the amount of attention that she receives on LR.”
And yet you never fail to show up on the Valby threads and add to the attention.🤡
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Asking for a friend wrote:
Kickers usually win wrote:
That’s an example as to why they don’t have similar ranges and Valby might never break 14:30 like Schweitzer has.
You’re crazy If you don’t believe Valby will potentially run faster than Schweitzer.
not something I want to use as relevancy but it’s just to say Karisa’s times came with a lot more training and much harder workouts under her belt(Schumacher training)
everyone’s different and Valby probably wouldn’t thrive under a Schumacher type training load but it is to say that talent wise, Parker is on another level vs Karisa.
and ok 2:03 and 4:00 for Karisa is cool and all but that doesn’t mean that is within her competitive range of events. Those times can’t do anything on the world nor US stage. 3k-half marathon I see Valby ending her career faster than Karisa in them all
Maybe a flip of a coin in the 5000m, but Karissa will always be better at 3000m, just like Valby will be better at 10000m.
It’s too early to gauge how Valby’s talent will stack up at the pro level and too early too compare it too Karissa’s.
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Precious Roy wrote:
The transition to running as a pro is a big one for Valby because of her history with injuries and preference for a low mileage, heavy cross training. It is actually a good sign that she is healthy and adapting well to her new coach and training group instead of coming out with a fast indoor debut and then being injured for six months.
Wow, thank god Valby is doing better than the made up worst case scenario you devised.
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Valby seems to have won quite a bit on the track without a supposed "kick"
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It certainly is interesting. She was clearly redlining but the best all seem to still have kicks even off really fast paces, like Kipyegon in her first 1500m record, Gebrhiwet's crazy close for his 12:36, or Jakob's 55 close to run 7:17. It's because your kick uses a different energy system so it is (in theory) possible to kick even when exhausted. I really do think this is related to her poor mechanics. This is something that should improve as she gradually builds volume.
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False. You have two different type of kickers (those who are naturally gifted with speed) and those strength runners who run lack the speed naturally-gifted runners have but are tactically smarter and/or run the wheels out of the kickers …
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A lot of people didn’t think Parker Val could kick Schweitzer and Kelati at USA’s and she out-kicked slicer and nearly got Kelati. Give Valby time ….
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So did Valby …
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rappatic wrote:
It certainly is interesting. She was clearly redlining but the best all seem to still have kicks even off really fast paces, like Kipyegon in her first 1500m record, Gebrhiwet's crazy close for his 12:36, or Jakob's 55 close to run 7:17. It's because your kick uses a different energy system so it is (in theory) possible to kick even when exhausted. I really do think this is related to her poor mechanics. This is something that should improve as she gradually builds volume.
There’s no reserve tank in running. If the only tank is empty, a person will not kick. Here’s an example of a legendary kicker experiencing having nothing left:
There’s a negative correlation between pace and a kick and no special training will change that. Hocker has a great kick in the 1500m but had no kick at all in last year’s OT 5000m.
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McRunnin wrote:
Some people just like to hate on the success of elite athletes. Valby runs a PB and finishes 3rd in her professional debut, and you say the first woman to win 5 NCAA distance championships in one academic year will never win at the pro level. But let's be honest. Even if Valby had won that race yesterday, you or someone else would have said something spiteful like, "So what, it was just a meaningless race indoor race in February with weak competition; the top Kenyans and Ethiopians will crush her."
No matter what an American distance runner achieves, some people here will find a way to criticize or try to diminish the achievement. Centro wins an Olympic gold medal by front running and controlling the race, and some people try to dismiss it because of the time. Hocker wins an Olympic gold medal in an Olympic record, and some people say he got lucky and the guy who finished fourth was more impressive because he led almost the entire race. But even if someone front ran the entire Olympic final and won gold while setting a new world record, there would be haters accusing that athlete of doping.
Haters gonna hate.
You’re letting her looks blind you. Americans get their doors blown off in the last 600 on the world stage
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She'll never beat SH, for example.
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wit wut wrote:
“Valby does not yet deserve the amount of attention that she receives on LR.”
And yet you never fail to show up on the Valby threads and add to the attention.🤡
The incredible predictions of times she will run, the adjustment of a hitch in her stride that will turn into a Yifter type kicker, the bad mouthing of Tuohy and how she will make a fortune with her looks, is interesting stuff.
To my credit, I didn’t click the thread about Valby taking baths with her teammates.
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Best performance by WA points by age, Valby and Schweizer
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Cranny is a native wrote:
Best performance by WA points by age, Valby and Schweizer
Interesting chart. But is not a certain athlete missing from it?
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she's already won in my heart
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wut wit wrote:
Interesting chart. But is not a certain athlete missing from it?
Who? It is a "Who's Who" of America's best current female distance runners. Every runner on there is:
1) Current American Record holder (8 and one former)
2) Olympian (14)
3) World Outdoor (10)
4) World Indoor (8)
5) Olympic gold (1)
6) World Outdoor gold (1)
7) World Indoor gold (1)
8) World Indoor medal - not gold (3)
9) World Outdoor medal - not gold (1)The bar is set pretty high for this list. I guess I could have added people like Raevyn Rogers and Ajee' Wilson due to their tremendous success but both have had serious decreases in performance the past few years and seemed to have hit their peaks about five years ago or more.
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Maybe Whitney Morgan.
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slower than a sloth wrote:
She clearly needs to start doing some 1500ms and working on that for a season. Her last lap of 71 seconds is horrid. Like every other pro, you should be able to find some sort of pick-up in the last 200m. To not be able to sustain your average lap pace (68.5sec) is abysmal. Needs to try some races where shes not just in the pack being towed but actually at the front pushing for a win to see if she has any ability to drop people because that finishing pace is extremely concerning. If no improvement soon, will be times to go for the steeplechase or trail running
fully agree. if she looked more like Nikki Hiltz and less like Barbie, no one would be sponsoring her or giving her these opportunities. could make a bit of a career as a pacemaker though before a move up to ultras
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Thevoiceofreason wrote:
Maybe Whitney Morgan.
Molly Seidel belongs on the list. There is another runner with good scores but does not meet criteria to be on the list.
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slower than a sloth wrote:
slower than a sloth wrote:
She clearly needs to start doing some 1500ms and working on that for a season. Her last lap of 71 seconds is horrid. Like every other pro, you should be able to find some sort of pick-up in the last 200m. To not be able to sustain your average lap pace (68.5sec) is abysmal. Needs to try some races where shes not just in the pack being towed but actually at the front pushing for a win to see if she has any ability to drop people because that finishing pace is extremely concerning. If no improvement soon, will be times to go for the steeplechase or trail running
fully agree. if she looked more like Nikki Hiltz and less like Barbie, no one would be sponsoring her or giving her these opportunities. could make a bit of a career as a pacemaker though before a move up to ultras
You forgot to change handles before posting to agree with yourself. Lol
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