That's great to hear! The thread was in regards to a single workout. The name of it isn't "Klecker has put together 3 months of consistent training." Responding to LR Thread posts within 60 seconds is also clearly a sign of insanity.
Also Klecker has run 27 flat for the 10k, but that’s cute that your friends ran 28 high
The point was that a 28 high guy could muscle through a similar workout and that we don't have the lactate/heart rate data to make any determination on how easy/hard the workout is for him physiologically. It's not a good race indicator workout beyond just the general knowledge that you're in very good shape. Who knows if 10xk in 2:44 at altitude equals out to 62 minutes or 59 minutes? Hopefully it means 59 minutes but the best person to ask when it comes to this would probably be someone like Canova who's coached a dozen 59 minute guys.
We have the heart rate data on strava. During the 1k reps it ranged between 155 - 175 bpm. Maybe his max heart rate would be in the low 190s? Would perhaps expect an all out half marathon race to be in the low 180s, so this is getting up there, a very hard effort, but not 100% all out. He titled the workout "Hard road VO2."
I'll do what the OP should have done frome the start. Here is the link to the workout. Toggle heart rate data on at the bottom with the green slide bar.
The point was that a 28 high guy could muscle through a similar workout and that we don't have the lactate/heart rate data to make any determination on how easy/hard the workout is for him physiologically. It's not a good race indicator workout beyond just the general knowledge that you're in very good shape. Who knows if 10xk in 2:44 at altitude equals out to 62 minutes or 59 minutes? Hopefully it means 59 minutes but the best person to ask when it comes to this would probably be someone like Canova who's coached a dozen 59 minute guys.
We have the heart rate data on strava. During the 1k reps it ranged between 155 - 175 bpm. Maybe his max heart rate would be in the low 190s? Would perhaps expect an all out half marathon race to be in the low 180s, so this is getting up there, a very hard effort, but not 100% all out. He titled the workout "Hard road VO2."
I'll do what the OP should have done frome the start. Here is the link to the workout. Toggle heart rate data on at the bottom with the green slide bar.
We have the heart rate data on strava. During the 1k reps it ranged between 155 - 175 bpm. Maybe his max heart rate would be in the low 190s? Would perhaps expect an all out half marathon race to be in the low 180s, so this is getting up there, a very hard effort, but not 100% all out. He titled the workout "Hard road VO2."
I'll do what the OP should have done frome the start. Here is the link to the workout. Toggle heart rate data on at the bottom with the green slide bar.
It's baffling to me how many people want to rank workouts based on how "impressive" they are, as if they are races. What's impressive is when you run the workout at the correct pace, not an unimaginably fast pace.
It's a similar workout to the one posted for Nico and Drew Bosley at 7000 ft. Nico was clicking off 2:49>2:44 (2 minutes rest typically but some were more) for 10x1k, then 2x200m @15/13=28. Bosley did 11x1k. They didn't appear to be particularly challenged. They have run 12:57/7:36.
We have the heart rate data on strava. During the 1k reps it ranged between 155 - 175 bpm. Maybe his max heart rate would be in the low 190s? Would perhaps expect an all out half marathon race to be in the low 180s, so this is getting up there, a very hard effort, but not 100% all out. He titled the workout "Hard road VO2."
I'll do what the OP should have done frome the start. Here is the link to the workout. Toggle heart rate data on at the bottom with the green slide bar.
Not sure how accurate it is and what this implies. Morgan was 9th in the most recent Olympic 5k final and has ran a 13:00 on the track. His PB is 27:58. He should smash that this year.
It's baffling to me how many people want to rank workouts based on how "impressive" they are, as if they are races. What's impressive is when you run the workout at the correct pace, not an unimaginably fast pace.
My lord, I was never ranking anything. All I said was that it was a good workout
Not sure how accurate it is and what this implies. Morgan was 9th in the most recent Olympic 5k final and has ran a 13:00 on the track. His PB is 27:58. He should smash that this year.
It says very little because you don't know their max heart rate. % of max HR is more relevant than absolute HR (though obviously not the only thing that matters for training). Age affects heart rate but there is sufficient variation that you can't use these athletes' ages to predict their max HR to the level required to compare these numbers.
Not sure how accurate it is and what this implies. Morgan was 9th in the most recent Olympic 5k final and has ran a 13:00 on the track. His PB is 27:58. He should smash that this year.
It says very little because you don't know their max heart rate. % of max HR is more relevant than absolute HR (though obviously not the only thing that matters for training). Age affects heart rate but there is sufficient variation that you can't use these athletes' ages to predict their max HR to the level required to compare these numbers.
It says very little because you don't know their max heart rate. % of max HR is more relevant than absolute HR (though obviously not the only thing that matters for training). Age affects heart rate but there is sufficient variation that you can't use these athletes' ages to predict their max HR to the level required to compare these numbers.
Mantz just ran 10 x 1km in 2:45 on the track
he ran from 2:40 to 2:45 and with only a 60-sec rest in-between
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