Luigi Mangione...fitness buff..identified as suspect in United CEO assassination

luigimagianoeee wrote:

I don't care where he went to school or what his job was. I don't care what philosophy books he was reading on goodreads, or who he voted for, or what podcasts he listened to.

I don't care if he consumed anticapitalist material or right wing material in his teens and early twenties. I don't care because I don't think that actually matters to his story at all.

Here's what's important to me. He was 26 years old (a curious year to be mad at a healthcare official wouldn't you think?). And he lost loved ones to illness and most of all, that he had major back surgery.

No social media post, podcast, or political ideology book can impact a person, especially a young person more than the chickens of these horrible companies coming home to roost in your face. He might have been reading Ayn Rand when this back surgery happened, you think he cared about what she had to say when his insurance denied all his claims and left him to suffer in deep chronic physical pain?

Does it matter what Fox News or Joe Rogan says when your spouse is dying of cancer and you are waist deep in medical debt because insurance found loopholes to resist helping you? Does it matter that you are a registered libertarian when you have to watch your child suffer in pain even though you have insurance, because they won't pay for lifesaving drugs?

"that doesn't mean you kill people!" No, it doesn't. But spare me fake sympathy for a man who profited from the suffering of death of so many others. All these insurance execs know what they are doing. "that doesn't mean you kill people" goes both ways, no? Perhaps insurance execs would do well to remember that same platitude when deciding to deny claim after claim for money...

you don't have to be an avowed anticapitalist or even a leftist to know that something is horribly depraved about our healthcare system. You just have to be someone who has been on the other end of it.

luigimagianoeee wrote:

I don't care where he went to school or what his job was. I don't care what philosophy books he was reading on goodreads, or who he voted for, or what podcasts he listened to.

I don't care if he consumed anticapitalist material or right wing material in his teens and early twenties. I don't care because I don't think that actually matters to his story at all.

Here's what's important to me. He was 26 years old (a curious year to be mad at a healthcare official wouldn't you think?). And he lost loved ones to illness and most of all, that he had major back surgery.

No social media post, podcast, or political ideology book can impact a person, especially a young person more than the chickens of these horrible companies coming home to roost in your face. He might have been reading Ayn Rand when this back surgery happened, you think he cared about what she had to say when his insurance denied all his claims and left him to suffer in deep chronic physical pain?

Does it matter what Fox News or Joe Rogan says when your spouse is dying of cancer and you are waist deep in medical debt because insurance found loopholes to resist helping you? Does it matter that you are a registered libertarian when you have to watch your child suffer in pain even though you have insurance, because they won't pay for lifesaving drugs?

"that doesn't mean you kill people!" No, it doesn't. But spare me fake sympathy for a man who profited from the suffering of death of so many others. All these insurance execs know what they are doing. "that doesn't mean you kill people" goes both ways, no? Perhaps insurance execs would do well to remember that same platitude when deciding to deny claim after claim for money...

you don't have to be an avowed anticapitalist or even a leftist to know that something is horribly depraved about our healthcare system. You just have to be someone who has been on the other end of it.

all of us feel your pain luigi wrote:

luigimagianoeee wrote:

I don't care where he went to school or what his job was. I don't care what philosophy books he was reading on goodreads, or who he voted for, or what podcasts he listened to.

I don't care if he consumed anticapitalist material or right wing material in his teens and early twenties. I don't care because I don't think that actually matters to his story at all.

Here's what's important to me. He was 26 years old (a curious year to be mad at a healthcare official wouldn't you think?). And he lost loved ones to illness and most of all, that he had major back surgery.

No social media post, podcast, or political ideology book can impact a person, especially a young person more than the chickens of these horrible companies coming home to roost in your face. He might have been reading Ayn Rand when this back surgery happened, you think he cared about what she had to say when his insurance denied all his claims and left him to suffer in deep chronic physical pain?

Does it matter what Fox News or Joe Rogan says when your spouse is dying of cancer and you are waist deep in medical debt because insurance found loopholes to resist helping you? Does it matter that you are a registered libertarian when you have to watch your child suffer in pain even though you have insurance, because they won't pay for lifesaving drugs?

"that doesn't mean you kill people!" No, it doesn't. But spare me fake sympathy for a man who profited from the suffering of death of so many others. All these insurance execs know what they are doing. "that doesn't mean you kill people" goes both ways, no? Perhaps insurance execs would do well to remember that same platitude when deciding to deny claim after claim for money...

you don't have to be an avowed anticapitalist or even a leftist to know that something is horribly depraved about our healthcare system. You just have to be someone who has been on the other end of it.

it's all part of the equation, but his twitter banner has an xray showing spinal hardware. many people resort to opoids that medical system freely hands out after these types of surgeries. like a mouse caught by the cat's toxoplasma gondi, the mouse is ensnared by the sh!tty pharmaceutical guild

DanM wrote:

bhah wrote:

His family surely recognized him from his pics on news. He clearly missed thanksgiving with them as well going by his dates in manhattan. Dad’s a professor, sister is MD/PhD, so they couldn’t have been clueless and oblivious.

Wonder if they expected something like this or were shocked out of their skin wondering where they went wrong. Sad either way.

There may be a family connection to Pelosi.

Thomas D'Alesandro III (1929-2019) was Pelosi's brother. He served as Mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971. Nicholas Mangione was one of D'Alesandro's more controversial appointees to the Baltimore School Board.

The following is from the Baltimore Afro-American, December 26, 1970. Note the last sentence:

Mayor D'Alesandro has been under considerable pressure in recent months to name a fifth black member to the school board to give it some balance in relation to the majority of black students in the city's public schools.

Proponents of this argument hold, among other things, that a majority black member school board would be far more sensitive to the problems and needs of the schools in terms of administration and necessary community relationship.

The Mayor however, has chosen to move with deliberate slowness in this area, giving little or no hint of his intentions.

His most recent nomination of Mr. Mangione proved to be somewhat of a shocking setback to the black community when that person appeared at a school board meeting and referred to black male members as "boys" and to the lone veteran black lady member as "Mrs. boy".

The Mayor has been hard pressed to explain the Mangione appointment as the man is in his family.

DanM wrote:

bhah wrote:

His family surely recognized him from his pics on news. He clearly missed thanksgiving with them as well going by his dates in manhattan. Dad’s a professor, sister is MD/PhD, so they couldn’t have been clueless and oblivious.

Wonder if they expected something like this or were shocked out of their skin wondering where they went wrong. Sad either way.

There may be a family connection to Pelosi.

Thomas D'Alesandro III (1929-2019) was Pelosi's brother. He served as Mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971. Nicholas Mangione was one of D'Alesandro's more controversial appointees to the Baltimore School Board.

The following is from the Baltimore Afro-American, December 26, 1970. Note the last sentence:

Mayor D'Alesandro has been under considerable pressure in recent months to name a fifth black member to the school board to give it some balance in relation to the majority of black students in the city's public schools.

Proponents of this argument hold, among other things, that a majority black member school board would be far more sensitive to the problems and needs of the schools in terms of administration and necessary community relationship.

The Mayor however, has chosen to move with deliberate slowness in this area, giving little or no hint of his intentions.

His most recent nomination of Mr. Mangione proved to be somewhat of a shocking setback to the black community when that person appeared at a school board meeting and referred to black male members as "boys" and to the lone veteran black lady member as "Mrs. boy".

The Mayor has been hard pressed to explain the Mangione appointment as the man is in his family.