I care about making antivaxxers and covid deniers look as dumb as possible.
They have spread propaganda for years that has decreased uptake and killed people.
They deserve to be called out with each new piece of data that shows, again, how embarrassingly and murderously wrong they were.
The “PR failure” of the vaccines was 50% or more to blame on antivaxx grifters and the useful idiots who believed them
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
You don’t consider this a PR nightmare? Those of us who work in healthcare cringed when we heard this as we knew it wasn’t true. Yet “useful idiots” took it and ran with it. Vax hesitant folks see people who are vaxed getting covid and that reaffirms their hesitancy. This statement did more harm than any of the “antivaxx grifters” in my experience.
At the time it was true. Sterilizing immunity was outstanding against the original strains.
The proper response to strain evolution would be to explain it and explain why boosters help.
Instead antivaxxers went “omg vaccine doesn’t work they lied”
sorry, antivaxxers are much more to blame for spreading disinformation and sowing mistrust. They’re whom the ire and derision should be mainly directed at
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
You don’t consider this a PR nightmare? Those of us who work in healthcare cringed when we heard this as we knew it wasn’t true. Yet “useful idiots” took it and ran with it. Vax hesitant folks see people who are vaxed getting covid and that reaffirms their hesitancy. This statement did more harm than any of the “antivaxx grifters” in my experience.
At the time it was true. Sterilizing immunity was outstanding against the original strains.
The proper response to strain evolution would be to explain it and explain why boosters help.
Instead antivaxxers went “omg vaccine doesn’t work they lied”
sorry, antivaxxers are much more to blame for spreading disinformation and sowing mistrust. They’re whom the ire and derision should be mainly directed at
It was absolutely false, even at the time he said it. The covid vaccine was never going to offer 100% protection from the virus. The public relations team oversold the vax, plain and simple. Your perspective on the topic is to clouded for you to be objective. It’s 2024, you can stop the covid crusade.
At the time it was true. Sterilizing immunity was outstanding against the original strains.
The proper response to strain evolution would be to explain it and explain why boosters help.
Instead antivaxxers went “omg vaccine doesn’t work they lied”
sorry, antivaxxers are much more to blame for spreading disinformation and sowing mistrust. They’re whom the ire and derision should be mainly directed at
It was absolutely false, even at the time he said it. The covid vaccine was never going to offer 100% protection from the virus. The public relations team oversold the vax, plain and simple. Your perspective on the topic is to clouded for you to be objective. It’s 2024, you can stop the covid crusade.
There was outstanding efficacy even against infection at the time Biden said it. I’m not clouded at all, but I’m not engaging in hair splitting of statements when the other side was screaming that the vaccine “wasn’t a vaccine” and was “deadly.”
What do you think had more of an effect on trust in the vaccine?
What are your personal thoughts on the efficacy of the vaccine? It’s clear what mine are, but I’m always curious about the hyper focus on one side of the issue and how that relates to personal opinions.
It was absolutely false, even at the time he said it. The covid vaccine was never going to offer 100% protection from the virus. The public relations team oversold the vax, plain and simple. Your perspective on the topic is to clouded for you to be objective. It’s 2024, you can stop the covid crusade.
There was outstanding efficacy even against infection at the time Biden said it. I’m not clouded at all, but I’m not engaging in hair splitting of statements when the other side was screaming that the vaccine “wasn’t a vaccine” and was “deadly.”
What do you think had more of an effect on trust in the vaccine?
What are your personal thoughts on the efficacy of the vaccine? It’s clear what mine are, but I’m always curious about the hyper focus on one side of the issue and how that relates to personal opinions.
It’s not hair splitting. Biden said it was 100% effective at stopping infection. Anything less than 100% renders his statement false. You can’t tell someone a medical treatment is 100% effective and turns out it’s not and then say “oh, let’s not get caught up in hair splitting…” and just get a pass. Thats not how the medical world works.
My personal opinion on the vaccines is that it’s a personal decision and should be determined based on a personal risk assessment. That will vary person to person based on age, comorbidities, etc.
Yes. Working from home, gyms closed, more drinking, more staying home, more netflix, more video games, less sports, more Zoom, more of basically everything that causes heart disease. Don't need to be a brain surgeon to figure that out
You honestly believe a few months of video games and sitting at home could accelerate heart disease in young people to the point they were having heart attacks?
Pretty sure “honestly” isn’t part of the equation.
Intelligent people are aware the risks from COVID are much greater than the risks rmcrom the COVID vaccines but the population is generally not very smart so here we are.
Intelligent people are aware the risks from COVID are much greater than the risks rmcrom the COVID vaccines but the population is generally not very smart so here we are.
But I read Alex Berenson’s substack so I’m bigly smart.
You continue to be completely divisive and show little to no empathy for an enormous subset of the US populace.
Have you ever read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks? That book is intended for people like you. Historically, black people have had such a difficult time trusting the medical community in this country, largely because they felt like they’ve never been listened to and taken seriously. They’ve endured decade after decade of arrogant doctors and scientists talking down to them. Imagine how you’d feel if you thought all of the people talking to you viewed you as lesser. Here you are doing just that to every person who showed hesitancy to or opposed the vaccine, and you either aren’t aware or are completely uncaring of the notion that the way you talk to people who disagree with you only entrenches them further in their ill-conceived thoughts, and hence you are actually poison for your own cause.
I am pro-vax. Worked in a respiratory ICU through the pandemic so I was able to get my first dose in January 2021. Frankly, I’m completely ashamed of people like you. You show absolutely no self-awareness and no kindness. The way that you talk on these threads shows that you care far more about thinking you’re right and “owning the anti-vaxxers” than the people you proclaim to care about. You and Harambe are two of the most insufferable, pompous users on LetsRun and at least you’re getting absolutely ratioed in this thread.
There was outstanding efficacy even against infection at the time Biden said it. I’m not clouded at all, but I’m not engaging in hair splitting of statements when the other side was screaming that the vaccine “wasn’t a vaccine” and was “deadly.”
What do you think had more of an effect on trust in the vaccine?
What are your personal thoughts on the efficacy of the vaccine? It’s clear what mine are, but I’m always curious about the hyper focus on one side of the issue and how that relates to personal opinions.
It’s not hair splitting. Biden said it was 100% effective at stopping infection. Anything less than 100% renders his statement false. You can’t tell someone a medical treatment is 100% effective and turns out it’s not and then say “oh, let’s not get caught up in hair splitting…” and just get a pass. Thats not how the medical world works.
My personal opinion on the vaccines is that it’s a personal decision and should be determined based on a personal risk assessment. That will vary person to person based on age, comorbidities, etc.
Did he say those words? or are you over interpreting a statement literally because it helps your axe to grind against the vaccine or the establishment or whatever?
Yes it’s a personal decision - one where if you don’t make the obvious choice to get vaccinated then you’re bad at math, like endangering others, and are likely below average IQ. The beautiful thing about personal decision is I’m free to judge.
Im especially free to judge people who pay 8x more attention to well meaning, factually correct public officials then crazy antivaxxers amplifying deadly false propaganda that had demonstrably killed peopled. But sure let’s put on our literal glasses and drop about 5 Std dev of social skills.
You continue to be completely divisive and show little to no empathy for an enormous subset of the US populace.
Have you ever read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks? That book is intended for people like you. Historically, black people have had such a difficult time trusting the medical community in this country, largely because they felt like they’ve never been listened to and taken seriously. They’ve endured decade after decade of arrogant doctors and scientists talking down to them. Imagine how you’d feel if you thought all of the people talking to you viewed you as lesser. Here you are doing just that to every person who showed hesitancy to or opposed the vaccine, and you either aren’t aware or are completely uncaring of the notion that the way you talk to people who disagree with you only entrenches them further in their ill-conceived thoughts, and hence you are actually poison for your own cause.
I am pro-vax. Worked in a respiratory ICU through the pandemic so I was able to get my first dose in January 2021. Frankly, I’m completely ashamed of people like you. You show absolutely no self-awareness and no kindness. The way that you talk on these threads shows that you care far more about thinking you’re right and “owning the anti-vaxxers” than the people you proclaim to care about. You and Harambe are two of the most insufferable, pompous users on LetsRun and at least you’re getting absolutely ratioed in this thread.
Absolutely insane response to someone posting that COVID killed young people.
You work in healthcare but are more upset that 2600 bro is correct (and a bit sanctimonious) than the devastating data that shows young people should have been more vaccinated.
Antivaxxers deserve to be owned. If they had the brains or the empathy to be changed they wouldn’t be babbling their propaganda. It’s our job to make sure their harmful BS doesn’t go unrefuted.
The dramatic and sudden rise was due to lack of healthcare as the health care system was overwhelmed with COVID patients.
And it stayed that way? Does someone develop heart disease because the hospital in his county is full for a few weeks? Doesn’t make sense for something chronic-ish like CVD mortality.
It’s not hair splitting. Biden said it was 100% effective at stopping infection. Anything less than 100% renders his statement false. You can’t tell someone a medical treatment is 100% effective and turns out it’s not and then say “oh, let’s not get caught up in hair splitting…” and just get a pass. Thats not how the medical world works.
My personal opinion on the vaccines is that it’s a personal decision and should be determined based on a personal risk assessment. That will vary person to person based on age, comorbidities, etc.
Did he say those words? or are you over interpreting a statement literally because it helps your axe to grind against the vaccine or the establishment or whatever?
Yes it’s a personal decision - one where if you don’t make the obvious choice to get vaccinated then you’re bad at math, like endangering others, and are likely below average IQ. The beautiful thing about personal decision is I’m free to judge.
Im especially free to judge people who pay 8x more attention to well meaning, factually correct public officials then crazy antivaxxers amplifying deadly false propaganda that had demonstrably killed peopled. But sure let’s put on our literal glasses and drop about 5 Std dev of social skills.
I’ll quote him once again since you were too dense to see it the first time:
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
I don’t see any other way to interpret the above quote.
He also said at one point that no one who received the vaccines had died from Covid. Again, overselling a vaccine.
My only point in this is to show that the government didn’t do themselves any favors in convincing people to get vaccinated. They bribed people, lied to them, insulted them and eventually threatened and punished them. You can be pro-vaccine and admit that mistakes were made by politicians and health officials…unless you’re incapable of being objective.
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RFK JR Will Bring Justice to Vax Pushers and Covid Hoaxers
Where's the proof for deaths of un-vaxxed young people from "Covid"? Without "un-vaxxed" being defined as "Not Fully Vaxxed" (only had one or two death shots, not the full schedule of however many that is these days).
This is all spin cover story for deaths from depopulation culling devices passed off as "Covid vaccines."
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Won’t someone please think of the feelings of the antivaxxers who have denied millions of COVID deaths and spread harmful propaganda for years.
How does it feel to have contributed so much to the election of Trump, and therefore putting RFK Jr in place to go after Fauci, the CDC, "vaccine" makers, etc.
You just keep doing what you're doing, we really appreciate all you've done and believe you'll help end all vaccines, not just the repurposed gene therapy "Covid" ones, thank you for linking the credibility of them all together, etc, etc, etc.
Did he say those words? or are you over interpreting a statement literally because it helps your axe to grind against the vaccine or the establishment or whatever?
Yes it’s a personal decision - one where if you don’t make the obvious choice to get vaccinated then you’re bad at math, like endangering others, and are likely below average IQ. The beautiful thing about personal decision is I’m free to judge.
Im especially free to judge people who pay 8x more attention to well meaning, factually correct public officials then crazy antivaxxers amplifying deadly false propaganda that had demonstrably killed peopled. But sure let’s put on our literal glasses and drop about 5 Std dev of social skills.
I’ll quote him once again since you were too dense to see it the first time:
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
I don’t see any other way to interpret the above quote.
He also said at one point that no one who received the vaccines had died from Covid. Again, overselling a vaccine.
My only point in this is to show that the government didn’t do themselves any favors in convincing people to get vaccinated. They bribed people, lied to them, insulted them and eventually threatened and punished them. You can be pro-vaccine and admit that mistakes were made by politicians and health officials…unless you’re incapable of being objective.
Harambe has shown himself to be a supporter of big government. He love the intrusion of government into citizen’s daily lives.
Did he say those words? or are you over interpreting a statement literally because it helps your axe to grind against the vaccine or the establishment or whatever?
Yes it’s a personal decision - one where if you don’t make the obvious choice to get vaccinated then you’re bad at math, like endangering others, and are likely below average IQ. The beautiful thing about personal decision is I’m free to judge.
Im especially free to judge people who pay 8x more attention to well meaning, factually correct public officials then crazy antivaxxers amplifying deadly false propaganda that had demonstrably killed peopled. But sure let’s put on our literal glasses and drop about 5 Std dev of social skills.
I’ll quote him once again since you were too dense to see it the first time:
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
I don’t see any other way to interpret the above quote.
He also said at one point that no one who received the vaccines had died from Covid. Again, overselling a vaccine.
My only point in this is to show that the government didn’t do themselves any favors in convincing people to get vaccinated. They bribed people, lied to them, insulted them and eventually threatened and punished them. You can be pro-vaccine and admit that mistakes were made by politicians and health officials…unless you’re incapable of being objective.
Biden 100% oversold the vaccine. I got my vaccine and think others should too but he oversold a vaccine that was never going to provide sterilizing immunity against a virus that was always going to evolve to new strains
The two are not mutually exclusive and while I got my vaccine the earliest I could from day 1 I knew they oversold it.
It was always okay to say the vaccine will move the needle in your favor but it is not going to be like the polio or measles vaccine. That is what they should have done instead of overselling it. It only gave fuel to the anti-vax nuts.