lol uhh 4 is very low. Sounds like you are bitter because 8's won't date you, and so you claim they are entitled 4's to make yourself feel better that you weren't interested in them anyway, while this whining post makes it clear that you are lol. I doubt you are trying to date actual 4's so you are clearly talking about actual 8's, and just bitter. Your personality as coming through this post is probably the reason 8's won't date you. Get a better attitude.
I see other people on the thread talking about dating apps. Yeah dating apps are absolutely horrendous. Great for meeting people, but they've taught everyone that you can just keep swiping and going on dates with new people so they have destroyed actual relationship culture. I've never found dating apps to lead to relationships, pretty much only ever 1-2 week flings and then they continue sampling the never ending menu that is dating app choices. Though I've never experienced women thinking they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, just very flakey cuz of dating app culture (which I've also heard women say the same thing about men so it's just the downsides of dating app culture), so that is likely you pretending that's what they think because they aren't interested in you.
But I have had multiple women who have gone out with me from dating apps (who I am surprised were even interested in me because they are much better looking than me and they are no doubt getting tons of responses from much better looking guys) tell me I stood out because most guys on dating apps are awful and I'm actually a normal nice guy. OP, from your "think they are 8s but are really 4s" bitterness I'm guessing you're one of the many guys women avoid because of your
Dating apps are really tough on men when women find 80% of men unattractive. 😯 And less than 5% of average-looking men get matched on the apps. And people push back saying that it's not all about "looks" with women (yeah...right, maybe back in the days before dating apps & social media, but not in this current environment).
And whether with the younger generation or Gen X & the boomers, women on these dating apps have a list of unreasonable requirements & prerequisites to go along with meeting their looks threshold. Simply put, most are looking for a "Chad" to sweep them off their feet providing them with a fairytale romance.
Think I'm embellishing? Watch some content from "Dating Delusion's" channel where he analyzes the profiles of many women - both young & old - on these dating apps as well as some Instagram & TikTok material from these women. I shake my head everytime I watch one of his videos. I can't believe what I'm seeing - especially with the women in the older demographics. Unbelieveable!
Men obsessed with dating apps has to be the most unattractive, pathetic thing. These men are not marriage or relationship material. They are wannabee playboys. And most of them sound like they should be dating men. These are high risk, low benefit men who do not realise that their actions, speech and attitudes make them extremely unappealing
Matchmaking is now done primarily by algorithms, according to new research from Stanford sociologist Michael Rosenfeld. His new study shows that most heterosexual couples today meet online.
Since everyone has a smartphone as their connection to the world, and most everyone - especially the younger generation - are on some kind of a social media platform, what do you suggest as a viable alternative for guys to meet women?
And since the divorce rate in the U.S. is around 43%, what kind of guy should women look at as marriage & relationship material? (obviously women aren't doing very good in this area if the divorce rate is almost 1 in 2 marriages. Lol).
Since everyone has a smartphone as their connection to the world, and most everyone - especially the younger generation - are on some kind of a social media platform, what do you suggest as a viable alternative for guys to meet women?
And since the divorce rate in the U.S. is around 43%, what kind of guy should women look at as marriage & relationship material? (obviously women aren't doing very good in this area if the divorce rate is almost 1 in 2 marriages. Lol).
It's you who needs to get with the times. Dating apps are considered a joke by quality people and only used as entertainment. You are ruling yourself out of the dating market by allowing them to turn you into a cynical.player. women don't want that. Sure you will meet a few golddiggers and women with issues, and the occasional dullard, but quality women mainly look for relationships, not for a man with 3 women on the go that he sees occasionally who has dipped his wick in so many holes it's radioactive.
I'm not just talking about dating apps but social media as well. Recall what the article is stating that I linked: Meeting people online is the most popular way people connect these days.
In fact, "Instagram" is becoming more popular than dating apps for meeting people. And there's FB dating which is also popular:
So many women have Instagram & FB accounts where they're trying to attract followers. Instagram isn't considered a "joke" to these users. It gives them the attention & validation they're looking for. And just like the dating apps, if the woman is attractive & appealing, she'll have a lot of male followers & guys after her (nothing new there).
I not sure why you're ignoring the data. Maybe you're one of the "80%" that women find unattractive? You seem all fluster & bent out of shape in response to the data I posted. I'm just providing facts & trends in the dating market. 😉
the study says 39% of people met their significant other online. that's not even half. and that's primarily kids.
studies say also school, work, and through friends. i would assume some people at churches.
common sense -- go where people commune and and get to know each other over time.
if you go where people tend to just hook up, expect to be evaluated like a one night stand. if you want long term, go someplace people sit down and talk.
you're also confusing aggregate with you personally. plain english, 39% isn't 100% and you might be in the other 61%.
what you want is what works for YOU.
if apps and social media do not work for you, you can pout and post about it, or you can fish someplace else. you wanting to meet someone or you wanting to give excuses for being single?
it has been a fact of life since i was a kid decades ago, pre-dating the internet, that some women don't want strings. same as some dudes want to play around. it might be fun in college. you get age 40 they ain't looking as good, playing the field don't work as much anymore.
but you can't change people and what they want.
what you can do age 30, 35, 40 is pass on that and fish someplace else.
the weird thing about pointing at a stat on hetero couples set up by social media, in the context of a thread ranting about women supposedly having too high standards, is by definition (a) the stats couples found someone and (b) whatever standards didn't stop that.
so are you trying to say this works or not?
sounds like you're just beefing about women in which case good like finding one to settle down.
I see so many women who think they are 8s but are really 4s. They act like they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread. What happened. What happened to equality as they like to put it, their standards are so out of touch. I blame society for pumping them up whom do you believe or blame
The obvious answer: Women don’t need men.
You’re not competing against other men for a woman’s attention, you’re competing against her free time.
If you aren’t offering anything more interesting than her own free time, well there’s your answer.
lol uhh 4 is very low. Sounds like you are bitter because 8's won't date you, and so you claim they are entitled 4's to make yourself feel better that you weren't interested in them anyway, while this whining post makes it clear that you are lol. I doubt you are trying to date actual 4's so you are clearly talking about actual 8's, and just bitter. Your personality as coming through this post is probably the reason 8's won't date you. Get a better attitude.
I see other people on the thread talking about dating apps. Yeah dating apps are absolutely horrendous. Great for meeting people, but they've taught everyone that you can just keep swiping and going on dates with new people so they have destroyed actual relationship culture. I've never found dating apps to lead to relationships, pretty much only ever 1-2 week flings and then they continue sampling the never ending menu that is dating app choices. Though I've never experienced women thinking they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, just very flakey cuz of dating app culture (which I've also heard women say the same thing about men so it's just the downsides of dating app culture), so that is likely you pretending that's what they think because they aren't interested in you.
But I have had multiple women who have gone out with me from dating apps (who I am surprised were even interested in me because they are much better looking than me and they are no doubt getting tons of responses from much better looking guys) tell me I stood out because most guys on dating apps are awful and I'm actually a normal nice guy. OP, from your "think they are 8s but are really 4s" bitterness I'm guessing you're one of the many guys women avoid because of your clearly toxic attitude. Be a better guy and those 8's will actually be interested in you.
Dating apps are really tough on men when women find 80% of men unattractive. 😯 And less than 5% of average-looking men get matched on the apps. And people push back saying that it's not all about "looks" with women (yeah...right, maybe back in the days before dating apps & social media, but not in this current environment).
And whether with the younger generation or Gen X & the boomers, women on these dating apps have a list of unreasonable requirements & prerequisites to go along with meeting their looks threshold. Simply put, most are looking for a "Chad" to sweep them off their feet providing them with a fairytale romance.
Think I'm embellishing? Watch some content from "Dating Delusion's" channel where he analyzes the profiles of many women - both young & old - on these dating apps as well as some Instagram & TikTok material from these women. I shake my head everytime I watch one of his videos. I can't believe what I'm seeing - especially with the women in the older demographics. Unbelieveable!
the study says 39% of people met their significant other online. that's not even half. and that's primarily kids.
studies say also school, work, and through friends. i would assume some people at churches.
common sense -- go where people commune and and get to know each other over time.
if you go where people tend to just hook up, expect to be evaluated like a one night stand. if you want long term, go someplace people sit down and talk.
39% is still over a third which is a lot. And when you say it's "primarily kids" are you referring to Gen Z? (Which goes up to something like age 26 now?).
And Instagram is becoming the hot, new dating app - especially with Gen Z:
And going to meet people in person isn't working anymore in this new cybertronic world. I posted earlier how we've become zombified with our phones. Everyone is addicted to them. I was standing in a long line at the store the other day & everyone in line was glued to their phones many wearing wireless ear buds. How are we supposed to verbally communicate with people when everyone is zombified with their phones? Lol.
It's all about digital communication in this day & age. No one wants to verbally communicate anymore - whether at the gym, the running trails, the stores, the parks - it doesn't matter. I fail to understand why you don't see the elephant in the room. Lol
Dating apps are really tough on men when women find 80% of men unattractive. 😯 And less than 5% of average-looking men get matched on the apps. And people push back saying that it's not all about "looks" with women (yeah...right, maybe back in the days before dating apps & social media, but not in this current environment).
And whether with the younger generation or Gen X & the boomers, women on these dating apps have a list of unreasonable requirements & prerequisites to go along with meeting their looks threshold. Simply put, most are looking for a "Chad" to sweep them off their feet providing them with a fairytale romance.
Think I'm embellishing? Watch some content from "Dating Delusion's" channel where he analyzes the profiles of many women - both young & old - on these dating apps as well as some Instagram & TikTok material from these women. I shake my head everytime I watch one of his videos. I can't believe what I'm seeing - especially with the women in the older demographics. Unbelieveable!
you realize both of these guys are like 4 feet tall right? Not to bash on short guys but doesn't that give you a sense of who these "alpha male" youtubers are?
I see so many women who think they are 8s but are really 4s. They act like they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread. What happened. What happened to equality as they like to put it, their standards are so out of touch. I blame society for pumping them up whom do you believe or blame
What should their standards be? Should they be willing to settle for some guy who is their "equal" in terms of appeal? Why should we assume that men and women are equal in this way? History shows that a much higher percentage of females have reproduced compared to men. The way it works for men is the best men get the access to the most reproductive right and the worst get access to none.
This is a blessing for us all as it encourages the biggest losers to get purged from the gene pool year after year. I wish women would be more selective in their perspective mates, maybe we would get less mouth breathers.
you realize both of these guys are like 4 feet tall right? Not to bash on short guys but doesn't that give you a sense of who these "alpha male" youtubers are?
The "Revival Fitness" guy (don't know his name) is actually 6'2" tall. He's talked about before when he was in college he was very skinny, but because he says he was good looking & tall, he had no problem getting girls. With the other guy, Mike Isreatel, I have no idea how tall he is - I don't follow his channel.
Here's Revival Fitness taking about how difficult it is for tall, lanky guys to put on muscle compared to shorter, more compact guys:
you realize both of these guys are like 4 feet tall right? Not to bash on short guys but doesn't that give you a sense of who these "alpha male" youtubers are?
Matt Centrowitz is short but always snagged women and now is married. He needs to do a podcast for y'all.
i am going to repeat myself. they surveyed people how they met their significant other in this day and age. 39%, it's barely more than 1 in 3 and less than 2 in 5. 3 in 5 meet people some other way.
it was like 20% each for work, school, or through their friends. i met my wife at work. the thing about each of those is you can take it slow and figure out who you like over time.
you're trying to say it's "high standards," you aren't using standards to swipe someone on an app. you didn't sit with them for even a speed dating length of time and reach some considered decision. that is straight looks. and straight looks on an app is more of the hookup end of the pool.
if you're wanting something long term that's not even the right end of the pool.
"standards," dude, is pulling the plug when you've dated months or years and something comes up or it just dawns on you that you think you deserve better. he doesn't want marriage or kids is a standard. he treats people like crap is a standard. he cheats is a standard.
9s and 5s are not standards. that's superficial looks assessment decided in a swipe or looking across a bar. those are usually not the start of "and this is how me met" stories at weddings.