Because. No point being honest here.
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kookie2 wrote:
She is at her ceiling.
Parker Valby ran the final 1600m of the 2024 Indoor Natty’s 5000m in 4:37.5. It is not unreasonable to speculate Valby could run that pace for the full 5000m within two years of healthy and patient training development. That would result in a 14:27 5000m, with a 30:01 10000m equivalent.
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Coach Timmons Training mechanics wrote:
Parker Valby ran the final 1600m of the 2024 Indoor Natty’s 5000m in 4:37.5. It is not unreasonable to speculate Valby could run that pace for the full 5000m within two years of healthy and patient training development. That would result in a 14:27 5000m, with a 30:01 10000m equivalent.
This clip is from that last 1600m.(In that clip, one can observe a bit of recoil asymmetry; that issue appeared to get worse in Outdoors.)
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22 days from July 18 to August 9
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Coach Timmons Training mechanics wrote:
kookie2 wrote:
She is at her ceiling.
Parker Valby ran the final 1600m of the 2024 Indoor Natty’s 5000m in 4:37.5. It is not unreasonable to speculate Valby could run that pace for the full 5000m within two years of healthy and patient training development. That would result in a 14:27 5000m, with a 30:01 10000m equivalent.
Maybe, but she has yet to show that she has the middle distance speed necessary, to ever run that fast. 4:37.5 for 1600m is equal to the pace of the 10000m WR.
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How fast is Gidey? Maybe Usain Bolt should make a comeback int he 10,000.
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Kickers usually win wrote:
Coach Timmons Training mechanics wrote:
Parker Valby ran the final 1600m of the 2024 Indoor Natty’s 5000m in 4:37.5. It is not unreasonable to speculate Valby could run that pace for the full 5000m within two years of healthy and patient training development. That would result in a 14:27 5000m, with a 30:01 10000m equivalent.
Maybe, but she has yet to show that she has the middle distance speed necessary, to ever run that fast. 4:37.5 for 1600m is equal to the pace of the 10000m WR.
Your take is an example of coming from one not really understanding the basics oh how running works.
You are trying to confuse and conflate “speed” with endurance.
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CTT wrote:
Kickers usually win wrote:
Maybe, but she has yet to show that she has the middle distance speed necessary, to ever run that fast. 4:37.5 for 1600m is equal to the pace of the 10000m WR.
Your take is an example of coming from one not really understanding the basics oh how running works.
You are trying to confuse and conflate “speed” with endurance.
Obviously, it’s a combination of both. I was just as strong as the guys on my college team, that had run sub-9:00 in HS, and the difference was them being 6-7 seconds faster for 400m.
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Kickers usually win wrote:
CTT wrote:
Your take is an example of coming from one not really understanding the basics oh how running works.
You are trying to confuse and conflate “speed” with endurance.
Obviously, it’s a combination of both. I was just as strong as the guys on my college team, that had run sub-9:00 in HS, and the difference was them being 6-7 seconds faster for 400m.
You make some idiotic point that Valby doesn’t have middle distance ‘speed’ to ever be able to run a 14:27 5k, which requires 12.5 laps at 69.4s/lap, when she obviously ran that pace for a mile at the end of a 5k, while having a 10k in her legs from two days prior.
So when called out on your stupidity, you then go off into gibberish trying to get away from your original dumb point.
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I see stupidity wrote:
Kickers usually win wrote:
Obviously, it’s a combination of both. I was just as strong as the guys on my college team, that had run sub-9:00 in HS, and the difference was them being 6-7 seconds faster for 400m.
You make some idiotic point that Valby doesn’t have middle distance ‘speed’ to ever be able to run a 14:27 5k, which requires 12.5 laps at 69.4s/lap, when she obviously ran that pace for a mile at the end of a 5k, while having a 10k in her legs from two days prior.
So when called out on your stupidity, you then go off into gibberish trying to get away from your original dumb point.
Huh? I’m saying there is no indication that she has the top-end speed to run that fast. Running fast for the last 1600m off of a slow pace, doesn’t mean she’ll ever be capable of holding it the entire way.
Pointing out that difference between the top runners, and the mid-packers, is 400 speed, is not jibberish.
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I see stupidity wrote:
You make some idiotic point that Valby doesn’t have middle distance ‘speed’ to ever be able to run a 14:27 5k, which requires 12.5 laps at 69.4s/lap, when she obviously ran that pace for a mile at the end of a 5k, while having a 10k in her legs from two days prior.
Not only that, she ran 68s/400m for the last 1600m of her 3000m at Natty’s Indoor, one day after breaking the collegiate record in the 5000m.
68s pace in an evenly split 5k is 14:10.
Obviously, she has sufficient ‘speed’ to run a 14:10, but the question is whether she can sustain 68s over 5000m. If whatever is causing the hitch in her stride can get ‘fixed’, then her running efficiency will improve dramatically.
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CoachTimmonsTraining wrote:
Obviously, she has sufficient ‘speed’ to run a 14:10, but the question is whether she can sustain 68s laps over 5000m. If whatever is causing the hitch in her stride can get ‘fixed’, then her running efficiency will improve dramatically.
This is what it comes down to. If she isn’t suffering from a severe musculoskeletal issue, then she potentially has a big upside.
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TMADDDHASFNE wrote:
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Thanks for your update. Some of us are calendar and math challenged!
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You're welcome! I'll begin posting important weather updates for Paris as we get closer to two weeks out. I'm hoping for a European heat wave during the games, as Parker thrives in the heat and humidity.
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July 23 – August 9, 2024Current Paris Temp Today is High of 75 and Low of 59. Mostly Cloudy. Warming trend for rest of week.
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TMADDDHASFNE wrote:
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July 23, 2024 - August 6, 2024Current Paris Temp Today is High of 75 and Low of 59. Mostly Cloudy. Warming trend for rest of week.
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admittedly I am calendar and math challenged, but what happens on Aug 6? Your last update indicated Aug 9. BTW sometimes I am posting sarcasm.
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Corrected my error. The excitement of Expecting Great Things has thrown off my cognitive abilities to properly navigate the space/time continuum.
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