Another 26 Kenyans Busted

26 athletes suspended. That would finish any other country in the sport. But it's just another day in the office for Kenya.

Time to ban Kenya from world / Olympic championships for at least 4 years

There has always been a lot of drug cheating from Kenya, Ethiopia, and other places. They also cheat by running for nations they are not from just by getting citizenship.

Can the IOC and World athletics please ban Kenya from track and field and road races for 4 years NOW. If Russia was banned in 2016 there is zero reason to not ban Kenya. Whether it's state organized doping or a huge pile of distance runners all using PEDS it boils down to the same thing - endemic doping within a nation. Bans should also be dished out to the associated managers and coaches of the doping athletes.

The ban needs to be put in place as soon as possible and instead of wasting money on testing Kenyan athletes who are likely doping anyway, the resources could then be directed at Ethiopia and Uganda. If the testing reveals a similar pile of doping positives in those nations then similar long term bans should be swiftly put in place.

If the sport's governing bodies don't act in this way then they will have lost all credibility if they claim to want a clean sport.

My problem with that is that typically it's the AIU catching the high caliber Kenyans, not Kenya. Saruni is a noticeable exception here, but others? Cherono, Kipruto, Wanjiru, Kipsang, Kiprop, Sumgong, the list of AIU catches goes and on.

Belet (part of this group) was ADAK. I believe Taki and Brenda Chebet were too. Since AIU conducts a higher proportion of tests for top athletes it kinda makes sense that it shakes out how it does. ABP cases will be their domain as well.

Is Eliud Kipsang the same Kipsang that went through the NCAA system? Saw his name on there as well

Kenya and Ethiopia have too much weight in the worldwide chess table.

Look at the tables of performances in the latest 40 years

I can find a true Western in the 5th page at best.

Kind of makes sense, but not really. The Eugene 2022 stats for example show for Kenyans 174 ooc AIU tests and 81 ooc ADAK tests, so a ratio of 2.1 : 1. It looks more like a 8 : 1 or 10 : 1 bust ratio at the top. It looks particularly bad if you look 2 years back: then ADAK basically didn't catch anyone, in contrast to AIU, for whatever reason. And even today, Saruni and Belet are at the top of ADAK's list, who play 2nd fiddle compared to for example Cherono, Wanjiru, Kipsang, Kiprop, and Sumgong.

None, because Kenya is testing and catching the cheats and the doping is not systemic or state-sponsored. If you have a bunch burglaries in one neighbourhood, you don't arbitrarily jail the whole community. It's antithetical to every principle of western justice, and you should know that.

Like I said before, other countries are testing at the level Kenya is. The equivalent of some of these busts would be if European countries tested all the way down to their club runners.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, doping is so ingrained in Kenya distance running that they know no other way to compete. This has been going on for a long, long time. The only thing that has changed in the past 40 years is that Kenyans are now actually tested out of competition. The whole country needs to take the next four years off and clean up this mess.

And can we please stop with the “poor Kenyans being taken advantage of” nonsense? Every other athlete in the world is responsible for knowing everything they take into their body. The top tier US athletes I have known were all hyper-vigilant about every single thing they ate, constantly reading labels and often refusing to eat out because they couldn’t control what went on in the kitchen. But Kenyans have some guy sticking a needle in their arm and we’re all supposed to just give them a pass because they “don’t know better”? I mean come on, this isn’t rocket science!

The point is not to have ADAK and AIU pools overlap due to unmatched depth (literal thousands). This in a non-wealthy country. Most countries don't test more than single digits.

It would definitely help in the marathon! Matt Mosman, MS, of "EndureLite" explains this quite accurately.

Testosterone & anabolic steroids help with muscle-protein breakdown incurred with the hard training these marathoners/endurance athletes do. It improves protein synthesis & allows for better recovery from workouts. Hard workouts increase cortisol levels which in turn suppresses testosterone levels. Testosterone & anabolics would circumvent that by increasing testosterone levels.

Add in EPO/blood transfusions in conjunction the testosterone/steroids these dopers are using & you have one heck of a PED-Powered marathoner!

So basically the entire African squad is confirmed doped, right??

Then Shelbo gets "popped" and passes 3 subsequent tests days later and this whole forum hates her.

The white guilt is palpable lmao

Fvcking losers

Nope. Shelby didn't pass "3 subsequent tests days later" and nope, not "this whole forum hates her" either.

The Africans also passed lots of tests btw.

So I’m supposed to believe those Floyd kipchoge fairytales now? He’s THAT much better than everyone else?

*Eliud