Valbymania: Shoe Companies Expecting Great Things! Her base may be between 650k-800k

The only memory lane is that anything in this sport that does not make sense and is too good to be true never is. As you recall, while I had very early suspicions, I decided earlier this year that Valby was probably clean. Then she experienced a major improvement, and started crushing college records, sometimes farcically as at ncaa indoors. That was way too much for my benefit of the doubt. Then you see how financially invested the family is in this project. Anyway, I am not going to rehash every red flag here. Only if Valby was from another country, no one here would so easily buy it and the magic arc trainer story.

You said basically said it up there: a sponsor in this day and age would not be paying for her to run close to 14:00; a sponsor would be paying her for her ability to generate revenue for them.

It’s really that simple.

Fast, competitive times are great. A marketable personality is also great. Put both of them together, and you have an athlete that will likely be able to sell shoes + merchandise.

She's like the Mia Hamm of running. Generational opportunity.

You, Mr. “I don’t care,” have to be one of the biggest disingenuous and duplicitous liars on this message board, because you, of all people, know that if Shelby Houlihan or Addy Wiley started advertising and shilling for Nick Bare supplements that you and Armstronglived would be all over it non-stop 24/7 on this message board. But now that it’s Tuohy pulling that crap, it’s all good in your book. 🙄

that's nonsense. I am a fraternity brother of Kyle's. He never had that nickname.

Her times are great but are not at all outlandish on the world scene for her age. I would expect someone such as Katelyn Tuohy to be running similar times had she not sustained her hamstring injury. Tuohy’s 8:35 is awarded 1214 points; Valby’s 14:52 is awarded 1202. Maia Ramadan’s 1500 is not far behind.

For that, it seems reasonable to assume Valby is clean. I have no reason to doubt her nor Tuohy.

I am the biggest Valby fan here.Even I would be suspicious of her if she was in bed with Bare like Tuohy is.

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I'm suspicious of both, and I also don't think either will amount to anything on the World stage. You're blind if you can't see all of the red flags for why Valby is suspicious. She runs a maximum of 25 miles per week, and I'm supposed to believe she went from a 17:14 as an unheralded freshman to a 14:52 on the strength of lots of cross training? Yea, no way. Tuohy shilling for a roided out fitness influencer is also no bueno. In my view, you're judged by the company you keep, and that company is not somebody I would want to be associated with.

I was really hoping for Tuohy to be the US' next great hope for medaling in distance events at the Olympics and Worlds. I really was. Unfortunately, she is not doing what she needs to get there and now seems like she is resorting to shortcuts. She's done. I don't think she ever makes a US team. I will hang my next hopes on Sadie Engelhardt and hoping she works harder.

Where has Touhy been?

injury prone as well to be fair.

injuries are part of sports.

Went pro. Entered testing pool. Joined Bare. Disappeared from racing.

Oh, not to mention she just went through a significant physique change that I'm sure is just her drinking her milk and eating protein.

Unfortunately, we will never know how good Abby Cooper could have been as a pro. However, Valby has already bettered her PRs in both the 3k and 5k and, by a big margin, in the 10k. And Abby was never winning her NCAA events by fifty meters, or lapping the entire field in the 10K. We have never seen an American storm the last kilometer of every race in the dominant fashion of Valby. Granted, she is filling a vacuum when it comes to collegiate and American distance running, and we should inquire as to why there is such an enormous performance gap between Americans and elite runners internationally. But its precisely because we want to find the runner who can fill that gap that she will command an unprecedented signing bonus.

Oh please. This is the most desperate deflection effort I have ever seen. Again, if anyone has ANYTHING to show that there is anything wrong with products, do so or STHU. Are you nitwits really going with "well, I think the former founder looks juiced"? How is that remotely relevant to anything. I know quitte a few people that use steroids just for cosmetic reasons, and it is a Hollywood mainstay now. LOLL.

Oh, and I do not have to try to manufacture anything as laughable about the two you mentioned. The facts are damning enough.

They are outlandish for a US collegian and they are accompanied by other factors. No one is saying she has gone full Kenya/Ethiopia, like say Haylom.

We already know why.

No US runner is medaling above the 800. Microdosing cannnot beat the real thing.

Valby want be a pro. She's not good enough and wants to do other things.