I’m married.
I don’t disagree that you are not alone in following this religion of blackpill lunacy.
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Let's get real wrote:
GD wrote:
I agree that looks are important on social media, but this is why social media is not great for men trying to meet women. I also suspect that political differences get in the way, too. Young women are more likely to be liberal, and these days, many are unwilling to date conservative or Republican men (in the US).
Please post a link to the Alex of PWF Tinder experiment. I'm curious about what happened.
Lastly, some of the men who complain that women only like jerks are, themselves, either jerks or seriously lacking in some or more qualities that women find desirable. Again, I'm not saying that young men have nothing to complain about; it's just that I've seen some men who complain about not being able to get a date (who clearly resent women) and don't realize that their obvious issues are driving these women away.
Wow...someone that actually agrees with me that looks are important on social media & dating apps.
Agree, social media & dating apps are not great for men trying to meet women, but it is the reality in this cyber world that we live in (it's only going to get worse as technology improves & we become more addicted to technology).
For example, look how everyone is integrated & connected to their phones & laptops almost 24/7. We hardly communicate to anyone in person anymore - we're all on our phones communicating to people via texting, emails, social media, etc. Lol.
Here's Alex's Tinder experiment with the unattractive, obese woman (474 likes in 24 hrs! 😲):
Additionally, Alex did another experiment with his 53 year old mom creating a profile where he made her look like a 65 year old "granny." This will blow you away: She received 1050 likes in 48 hrs with a lot of interest from young, attractive guys! 😲):
You know that one guys like everyone so that they can then be the ones to do the ‘choosing’. It’s a strategy that means you don’t need to worry about being ‘rejected’ and instead are doing the rejecting.
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Old and slow wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
The personality lie. It's actually how you make them feel is the truth but they'll dress it up as personality. What place do nice guys finish again? Last with women.
Steve gets down-voted for this, but he is 100% right. Nice guys really do finish last with women. It took me a while to figure this out, but once I did my life got very entertaining. I'm past that sort of thing now...
What's your definition of a nice guy? And it can definitely be taken too far in the other direction.
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Middle aged not loner wrote:
I’m married.
I don’t disagree that you are not alone in following this religion of blackpill lunacy.Fair enough.
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Let's get real wrote:
not currently dating - is this really a thing? wrote:
Are cars seriously part of the dating game once you're out of high school? I understand if you're rolling up in a 100k car, that can turn some heads. Or if your backseat is full of empty Chick Fil A bags, and your headlights are held on with duct tape, that's kind of a red flag. Sure cars are somewhat of a proxy for wealth, but where's the line? I'm intrigued. Like what is a no-date car vs a will-date car?
Well, according to dating coach Rich Cooper ("The Unplugged Alpha"), his no BS approach to getting attractive women is to become a "high-value man" - obtain wealth & status, drive nice cars, get jacked, learn a fighting art, etc. Who would have thought. Lol.
Tony Montana gave similar advice:
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Don't be this guy.
She will leave you hanging on to a door in the freezing water once the ship sinks.
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Eliud Bekele wrote:
30+ minutes: fatties who women aren't interested in
25-30 mins: normal people
20-25 mins: goldilocks zone
17-20 mins: tryhards who train by themselves and have no social skills so act creepily when they engage with women
<17 mins: too autistically dedicated to running to engage with the opposite sex
This explains a lot...
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Use the word women rather than girls, and you won't sound like a pedophile.
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Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
GD wrote:
Yes, you should cold approach women, but with some caveats. I'm not sure how parkrun works, but the best scenario is to gradually get to know someone (is parkrun a regular series?). Start by saying hi, then formally introducing yourself. Gauge the situation in terms of friendliness versus potential interest. Obviously, this requires repeat interactions with people.
Women judge men less on appearance than vice versa, which means that a good personality, humor, and having your life together can increase your appeal to a woman who gets to know you. This doesn't meant that women will never respond positively to a one-and-done overture; it simply means that you improve your chances by hanging around the same women regularly (provided you have a good personality and a stable life).
The personality lie. It's actually how you make them feel is the truth but they'll dress it up as personality. What place do nice guys finish again? Last with women.
Nah, I honestly think you and a lot of letsrun is out of touch with the social landscape today. Maybe back in the day that was true about looks versus personality, but personality is definitely the deciding factor now, unless the person you're involved with is just awful.
The issue is what a "good personality" is for a lot of guys (many of whom don't really relate to the women they're interested in) actually comes off as forced and creepy to most women. If you have to pretend to be someone else to date someone, then it just won't work.
I will admit it is probably easier to be genuine, outgoing, and "nice" when you look good and know that other people see you like that.
So yeah, maybe some people only date based of looks, but that almost always ends bad for everyone involved unless they're good people under that. If people like that are all you see then you're probably looking in the wrong places.
Also, either you are misrepresenting the "nice guys finish last" saying or it just flew right over your head.
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No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Here's a study on this:
Self-improvement coach Alexander Grace discusses this study in depth including some interviews with women:
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Let's get real wrote:
No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Really? Women have minimum standards for looks? Glad somebody did a study to prove the obvious. Maybe next they can do a study to see if men also have a minimum standard for women's looks.
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My God, why do you people make this harder than it has to be. Just go talk to women. Maybe you'll hit it off, maybe you won't. That is how like works.
Sitting in the distance wondering what will happen and then blaming women for not being successful is just dumb. That's like me watching the stick market, not investing at all, and then blaming brokers that I have no portfolio.
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Old and slow wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
The personality lie. It's actually how you make them feel is the truth but they'll dress it up as personality. What place do nice guys finish again? Last with women.
Steve gets down-voted for this, but he is 100% right. Nice guys really do finish last with women. It took me a while to figure this out, but once I did my life got very entertaining. I'm past that sort of thing now...
I don't agree with this at all. I'm a very nice guy and I **always** finish first, sometimes within just a minute or two
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Let\'s get real wrote:
No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Here's a study on this:
Self-improvement coach Alexander Grace discusses this study in depth including some interviews with women:
So then by that logic, yes, personality is the deciding factor. Since there may be a "minimum looks threshold" to be met, after that is met, other factors (largely including personality) play a large role.
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Let\'s get real wrote:
No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Here's a study on this:
Self-improvement coach Alexander Grace discusses this study in depth including some interviews with women:
“Self-improvement coach” 😂😂😂
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I have a challenge for anyone calling me an incel. We'll each put up $10,000 and whoever attains fornication with the most women in one week gets all the money. That's my challenge to anyone calling me an incel. Put some credibility on your (false) claims. I'd become an 8 figure man very quickly if people actually were held accountable for their libel.
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sum dude wrote:
Let\'s get real wrote:
No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Here's a study on this:
Self-improvement coach Alexander Grace discusses this study in depth including some interviews with women:
So then by that logic, yes, personality is the deciding factor. Since there may be a "minimum looks threshold" to be met, after that is met, other factors (largely including personality) play a large role.
No, you're not interpreting the study correctly. There are three categories of guys for looks: 1) Highly Attractive 2) Moderately Attractive & 3) Unattractive. There are 3 categories for personality: 1) Highly Desirable 2) Desirable & 3) Moderately Desirable.
None of the women in study selected any of the unattractive guys that had a highly desirable personality.
So, personality is not factor at all for unattractive guys with great personalities & character because they can't even get their foot in the door with women in the first place!
You would have to be at least "moderately attractive" to get the attention of women where you can then showcase your good personality traits.
And think of the highly attractive guys out there (e.g, "Chads") with less than desirable personalities that have no trouble dating. These are your typical "bad boys" that you'll see a lot of women attracted to.
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Middle Aged not loner wrote:
Let\'s get real wrote:
No...personality is not the deciding factor with women.
Only after a man meets a women's minimum looks threshold does personality play role. This is one of the basic "blackpill" tenants.
Here's a study on this:
Self-improvement coach Alexander Grace discusses this study in depth including some interviews with women:
“Self-improvement coach” 😂😂😂
You would be surprised at how lucrative the self-improvement coaching business is. A lot of these guys are making big $$$ between their clients & their YouTube channel. 😉
I hear Rich Cooper (Unplugged Alpha) charges quite a bit for his services & pumps out content almost everyday on his YouTube channel:
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Another year with no gf.
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A millennial man should really consider talking to women and not girls.
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