Mo Katir suspended for whereabouts failures

He was going for b2b records in the 5k and 2k, which required testing. If you think Katir was doping he was microdosing and not afraid of in-competition testing, but fearful of out-of-competition testing.

LETSRUN!!! We done told you! I’ve heard from many pro athletes that Katir is dooing, have said this in many threads that have been downvoted. People here think because people “seem nice” that they are clean! Finally he is getting caught up with!

guess Gabby Thomas had better lawyers than he did

Precisely.

Micro for in completion, macro during out of competition- thus the whereabouts failures.

Ok. So I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. Posters like Coevett put me on a downer, if I'm honest. Consequently, I never say one person or another is suspicious based on performance alone.

But once they are caught, I lose that trust in them.

So for what it's worth, I now think he's doping.

That said, I have a feeling he may get off. His statement looks like a lawyer prepared it.

And it looks like they're going to try and get off on a technicality.

Lets see how this plays out...

His progression was a little too on the nose in 2021. Whereabouts almost bother me more than positive tests. I wish we knew every athlete who has missed 1 or 2 tests. There's no excuse in 2024 to miss 3 tests. I think the penalties should be worse for stuff like this. Feel like athletes (Christian Coleman comes to mind) have been welcomed back to the sport with open arms because people forget & athletes/their PR teams muddy the waters since there was no positive test. Katir will have his supporters since he's going to deny everything/appeal it & there's no actual positive test for people to point to (you know, because he avoided them).

Looooooooool. I pity those surprised by this, the most obvious suspension there will ever be.

Yes, absolutely. Even 1 or 2 whereabouts should be public. Suspend for a very long time with 3.

Cry more, clown.

He had the presumption of innocence - even in light of very dubious performances - until he missed three tests in 12 months.

It is now a presumption of guilt.

Don't miss three tests in a year you silly goose.

Yes. Still failing a test is obviously worse. I think 2 missed tests should trigger extra tests(paid for by fining the athlete)/double availability daily. Something to make it exceedingly unpleasant and undesirable.

I'm actually glad they don't tell you who has missed one or two tests, for the same reason I'm glad they don't make ABPs publicly available: there's far too many stupid people around who don't know they're stupid so they'll hamfistedly interpret the data and come to whatever garbage conclusion that they wanted to in the first place. Besides, athletes get whereabouts strikes all the time for understandable reasons. I remember Kate Grace saying she got one because she forgot to update her details after she moved house. But anyone seeing that she had a strike in her record could infer much more negative reasons for it. In reality, the only reason to publicise who has missed 1/2 tests is for gossip

I’m one one the posters that defended Katir against the doping allegations based on his progress, his country and country of origin. And I still will defend him till proven guilty… But I also said that I thought Coevett defended himself quite well against allegations of being a racist in some of his posts…

Is Katir guilty? I don’t know. Can he be guilty? Yes, of course -everybody can! The outcome here, IMO, seems to be one of these three: 1. Katir will be convicted for a serious violation of the doping rules (but not for doping). This is a big thing, not only because of a suspension of 1-2 years, but also because you will have to live with (not unfounded) real doping suspicions the rest of your life.

2. The athlete’s violation of the rules, in addition to investigation reveals that he has been doped. The suspension will then be significantly longer.

3. Katir gets acquitted because of wrong registrations by the ADAMS’s (and hopefully not merely by a technicality).

+1

She had her friends testify that she was actually home with them one of the three times, and that the doorbell never rang. Problem solved.

has someone said this is great news for grant fisher yet?

TBH, even if he was clean (which I don't believe is the case), its good that he's getting banned. If it's your JOB to provide accurate whereabouts information, be there for your window, follow the procedures, etc., and you can't manage to do it 3 separate times, you don't deserve to be called a professional.

If there genuinely is a case where the doping agency screws up and gives you an undeserved strike, wouldn't you want to address that BEFORE you manage to get another one and get yourself banned? Like, if I got a second strike for a reason I thought was undeserved, I would at least contact the doping agency and try to reason with them to get that strike removed. I might also want to publicize the mistake the agency made, just to show that there are, in fact, cases where the agency screws up. Why would you try to contest a "screwed up" 2nd strike AFTER you've already gotten the third and a ban? Super suspicious and frankly he's showing his hand by making this argument.

Also, no, there is no "presumption of innocence" once you get a ban.

ANOTHER lying cheating cowardly stick figure reeled in by the fishing pole known as Johnny Law!

Enjoy your suspension and realize that none of your races count. Haha

Haha it actually is. But that being said, yesterday and the last couple of weeks have been bad news for Grant Fisher. As far as the 10K, Selemon Barega is fully back. Daniel Simiyu Ebenyo looks like a World-Beater. The 5K landscape certainly is looking better with Jakob injury and Katir suspension (appeal should be heard by Olympics time).

Poking the Bear. Not recommended but obviously those guys are drinking the same Kool-aid