Some disgusting people in this thread. Of course no one knows anything about what actually happened, but if he was **drunk** as the original rumor said and hit his daughter, we're not even remotely talking about corporal punishment, its very plainly violent abuse.
Holy crap you idiots really don’t know how to read do you? The original claim said SHE was the one who came home drunk (which is a crime in Norway btw for youth under 18 y/o) and he disciplined her with a punch. That’s not clear cut “plainly violent abuse”.
Being drunk is not a crime for under 18s in Norway.
Some disgusting people in this thread. Of course no one knows anything about what actually happened, but if he was **drunk** as the original rumor said and hit his daughter, we're not even remotely talking about corporal punishment, its very plainly violent abuse.
Holy crap you idiots really don’t know how to read do you? The original claim said SHE was the one who came home drunk (which is a crime in Norway btw for youth under 18 y/o) and he disciplined her with a punch. That’s not clear cut “plainly violent abuse”.
BREAKING: Illiterate Zoomer falls victim to a straw man fallacy and doesn't realize that Norway makes up 0.07% of the world. The fact remains that most of the posters on LRC are from America and ~90% of the world's children live in countries where corporal punishment and other physical violence against children are still legal.
BREAKING: ignorant poster doesn't realize we are discussing something that allegedly happened in Norway!
It certainly started out as this, but it's obvious that the majority of individuals who oppose corporal punishment in this thread are not suggesting that it is solely illegal and unacceptable exclusively in Norway. Their criticism extends beyond Norway's borders, emphasizing that it is both illegal and legally seen as child abuse in various countries, which is simply untrue.
Damn dude thats crazy so your saying the legality of something determines if it's ethical or not? You do know that over and over again the studies have found that corporal punishment has negative outcomes for children when they grow up?
Here's the truth, people like you think kids are their property that they can do ad they will to. You don't look at them as people, just an extension of yourself. You want to have some measure of control over your crappy life and you take it where you can get it.
You're introducing a red herring fallacy. No one ever said it wasn't ethical, snowflake. People are just pointing out that corporal punishment is legal and normalized in most parts of the world and that it's not worth severing ties with your family over.
All families on varying degrees of the spectrum are psychotic. Throw in an endless pursuit of excellence with no compromise and you can see how the father / child relationship becomes fractured.
Their position within the global and especially Norwegian spotlight makes for an uncomfortable analysis of interactions that naturally occur daily in other households across the world. Sad, but the chasm seems to have merit, Gjert always seems like he is ready to explode so maybe the distance is necessary.
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Does this make sense? Surely, violence against a child is not type of legal matter where pressing charges is at the discretion of whoever is deciding it is for the best of the family.
Damn dude thats crazy so your saying the legality of something determines if it's ethical or not? You do know that over and over again the studies have found that corporal punishment has negative outcomes for children when they grow up?
Here's the truth, people like you think kids are their property that they can do ad they will to. You don't look at them as people, just an extension of yourself. You want to have some measure of control over your crappy life and you take it where you can get it.
You're introducing a red herring fallacy. No one ever said it wasn't ethical, snowflake. People are just pointing out that corporal punishment is legal and normalized in most parts of the world and that it's not worth severing ties with your family over.
Legality aside, why are you so intent on Jakob being in the wrong? Should he be legally obligated to have gjert at his wedding because of bloodline or something? It’s his own wedding and if this story is actually true, I would imagine he spoke to his sister about this above anything else. Maybe the whole family even said it was gjert or them. I think it’s super strange to have strong opinions about personal decisions someone else makes, especially when you have pretty much zero context.
Does this make sense? Surely, violence against a child is not type of legal matter where pressing charges is at the discretion of whoever is deciding it is for the best of the family.
Any kind of parental violence has been illegal in Norway since 1972.
I find this whole story to have very little merit, it is just an unsubstantiated Reddit rumour.
Nothing I saw from gjert in the tv shows suggests this is how he resolves conflict with his children. Doesnt mean it did not happen but innocent until proven guilty.
I am a huge Gjert fan and 50 years old, but if it did occur, kudos to Jakob for standing his ground.
punching a wife, woman, girl is unacceptable...The moral question to LRC is what about a slap- as I came from an era (but it was always the mother) who slapped the girls in the family once or twice when they were younger, for whatever reason never the boys. In japanese and Mexican culture they actually show slaps from the father to the daughter on TV!!
Nothing I saw from gjert in the tv shows suggests this is how he resolves conflict with his children. Doesnt mean it did not happen but innocent until proven guilty.
I am a huge Gjert fan and 50 years old, but if it did occur, kudos to Jakob for standing his ground.
punching a wife, woman, girl is unacceptable...The moral question to LRC is what about a slap- as I came from an era (but it was always the mother) who slapped the girls in the family once or twice when they were younger, for whatever reason never the boys. In japanese and Mexican culture they actually show slaps from the father to the daughter on TV!!
You were a victim and abused. I’m sorry you had to find out this way but in Norway your mother would be in jail. Even a slap is not ok!!
To those of you who were physically disciplined by your parents as children, this is a CRIME and you are all VICTIMS. Your parents should be indicted child abuse!!
Honestly, it’s quite sad seeing how many boomers defend physical violence. The fact that your parents beat you doesn’t mean that it’s good. It results in human garbage like you. There are much better ways to teach your kids.
Are boomers more defensive of physical violence than others? Please share with us your extensive study on this matter. How many boomers (and without age verification we have to take their word for it) in this thread are defending physical violence? I see at least one, and he also acts as if "getting laid" is something good rather than, say, regressive, dangerous, stupid, sinful, etc.
blah blah blah, didn't hurt me, blah blah blah. News flash, it DID hurt you; you turned out to be an idiot who thinks using violence against kids is OK.
Lol. My dad, the gym teacher, apologized afterwards.
What kind of c#ck gets their ass beat and then sides with the person who whooped them?
in 1972 you werent a victim you were a child and acceptable forms of discipline from a parent were defined differently. paddle at the school was politically correct adjustment from belt. one paddle and gone as opposed to many belt swings.
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