Jakob Ingebrigtsen…what went wrong?

I picked Josh Kerr to win for my picks and Jakob 2nd. TRIPLE THRESHOLD!

Yes but Tim went out hard. Jakob running a 58 second lap scared nobody and it was only a matter of who vs whether someone would try to attack him the last 700.

Nothing went wrong. The best man won

Arrogant mfer got fed humble pie. LOVE IT 😍 Thought he could crush everyone from the front and instead paced Kerr to victory LOL.

Overrated goose off the podium as well haha.

It is kind of mind-blowing when you think about it. No one in the field has run within a second of him in the 1500m, he has by far the strongest resume at longer distances (which would indicate he'd have an advantage recovering from rounds), and yet Jakob again dictates a pace that lets the top 800/1500 types (Kerr this year and Wightman last year) hang around and burn him in the last 200m. Other than setting out to run 3:28 flat, maybe he instead should look into the El Guerrouj approach of grind the pace down from halfway if he wants to avoid an upset like this happening in the next Olympics.

Jake Wightman said on British TV tonight that one of the problems Jakob has is the lack of respect he gives to his competitiors. He is starting to seem mentally weak with his self-perception not lining up with his actual ability which is why he is making excuses about illness.

He is clearly the best time trial/Diamond League 1500m runner at the moment. It's also clear he is not all that far ahead of his best competitiors even in this format. He is 1-1.5s up, at best. He is not the male version of Faith Kipyegon.

The simple fact is that he is not really the prototype for a championship 1500m runner which is a "true" 15 guy with great endurance and a 1:43 800.

He won the Olympics on the back of Timothy Cheruiyot leading him out but otherwise is vulnerable to anyone #2-#10 in the world who can stick with him when he is forced to lead.

His ideal distance is probably the 3k but as that isn't a championship event he should reorient his focus to the 5k and become unbeatable there.

Second Lap was too slow, a 58 did't take the sting out of a lot runners legs, also he was a little to cocky in the semi's, you have to be humble and not mock your opponents in a race. Bottom line Kerr had the big kick today.

If he ran faster than 58 on that second lap then he’d have even less in the tank on that home straight.

It’s simply very hard to lead a fast race and beat competitors who are near equal to you.
It’s why you historically see slow championship races. Even the best don’t want to be the sacrifice rabbit.

But then he’s just opening himself to getting out kicked by faster guys. He was broken with ease by Kerr there. It was over within 5 seconds.

I think that this puts a different spin on some of what we were talking about in the "All Oly champions race the 1500: who wins?" thread.

Jakob, as fast as he is, doesn't have sub-1:43 800m speed, and his acceleration is less instantaneous than El G or Coe, he has ot wind the speed up from further out to get to top end speed, and he's vulnerable. Wightman and Kerr both kicked past him. I think taht, in the imaginary 1500 race, that Coe and El G would and could do the same thing to him.

Interesting that Wightman thinks that Jakob doesn't really respect his competitors. I can understand that, to be an elite athlete you have to have a sense of confidence bordering on arrogance sometimes to succeed, but I think that it shows the current Diamond League set up with all pacemakers, all the time, take away the racing aspect. And we've talked about this before, many, many times on this site, that today's runners seem to be time trial specialists who can run very, very fast, but often misjudge not-rabbited championship races leading to the favorites failing to bring home the expected gold. Jakob doesn't like being in races where he can't dictate (via pacemakers) the set-up, and it shows in todays slightly odd racing from the front tactics.

Still a great race, great win by Kerr.

Sorry if this has been mentioned. I have not read the entire thread.

On Instagram JI claims he is injured AND sick.

The Instagram crowd is roasting him. Most along the lines of "You didn't seem to be injured or sick when you were gesturing to the crowd and trying to disrespect your opponents."

Looool he deserves ALL of that. 😂😂😂

Yes, that was extremely stupid.

jakob can’t handle the grind of an ncaa schedule. he would win every race he runs and break every world record if he spent 6 semesters at oregon. the ncaa is the only way an athlete can be a good racer

Correct. If he blazes from the start it’s his best chance. A 58 second circuit for lap two fazes no one at world class level.
Watch out for Laros. Good grief.

I agree with most of what's been said in this thread. J.I. might win 8 out of 10 times if everyone time trialed or ran in lanes on a 1500m straightaway. But if leading for 1200m, from 200 to 1400, gives even 1.5 seconds advantage to others who are drafting, then someone with more speed/power can win in a kick. It reminds me of Roger Bannister vs. John Landy in the 1954 Commonwealth Games. Landy was a very fit front-runner, maybe best suited to be a 3000m runner (like Jacob). Bannister was a lightly trained runner, and maybe his best natural distance was around 1200m. But Landy, the front-runner, couldn't put an unbridgeable gap on Bannister, and was passed off the last turn.

Excuses or explanations aside, the random italians, spaniards, and other dorky europeans in his instagram mentions crying about sportsmanship might be the weakest people of all time.

God forbid someone tries to hype up the crowd more in a semi. You’d think he slapped his opponents in the face when they tried to shake his hand the way people are talking.

They will get their two dozen likes from the feeble hive mind and retreat to their dilapidated shack on the mediterranean sea to smoke a pack of cigarettes indoors

So after the race Jakob said at the midway point he was thinking too much of running fast time instead of winning the race. It's as simple as that. He made a bad error in calculation.

He wins Gold when he takes water breaks, he gets Silver when he doesn't.