AW has an interesting article out on the WR and how ridiculous Kratochvílová’s double at Worlds was that year:
Trickiest of all was Tuesday August 9 when she won her 400m semi-final in 51.08 and the 800m final in 1:54.68 just 35 minutes later, although AW’s coverage at the time suggests there was as little as 24 minutes between her leaving the track after the 400m and returning for the 800m. Then, the following day, she passed 200m in 23.2 before clocking 47.99 in the 400m final to beat Koch’s world record of 48.16.
"At present anabolic steroids are applied in all Olympic sporting events, with the exception of sailing and gymnastics (female)2 , … and by all national teams. The application takes place according to approved basic plans, in which special situations of individual athletes are also considered. The positive value of anabolic steroids for the development of a top performance is undoubted. Here are a few examples… Performances could be improved with the support of these drugs within four years as follows: Shot-put (men) 2.5–4 m; Shot-put (women) 4.5–5 m; Discus throw (men) 10–12 m; Discus throw (women) 11–20 m; Hammer throw 6–10 m; Javelin throw (women) 8–15 m; 400 m (women) 4–5 sec; 800 m (women) 5–10 sec; 1500 m (women) 7–10 sec… "
No one knows what drugs jarmila took.She was rumoured to be on dianabol and stromba,but she probably took whole cocktails.She looked to be on much larger doses than the east germans.Apparently even the east germans laughed at how masculine she looked.
C'mon Jeff....no female in her right mind is going to use Dianabol.
This was the anabolic that was so popular with the golden era bodybuilders (e.g, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lou Ferrigno, Rick Dresin, etc) because of it's ability to put on incredible mass & strength in a relatively short amount of time.
Watch this video with this female athlete talk about the preference of Turinabol over D-bol.
DIANABOL V/S TURINABOL. DBOL BODYBUILDING. TBOL EXPLAINED. WHICH IS BEST..... WELCOME TO MIAMI LIFE AND FITNESS.....A CHANNEL ABOUT FITNESS IN MIAMI.... HO...
I can appreciate all the accusations of her doping. That said, she was so talented and an absolute joy to watch. Despite the criticisms of herself an Koch, they are 2 of the all time greats and their talent cannot be overlooked.
No woman beats her record without massively doping. That means that at some point it will happen, since every other record is doped.
Yep and anyone who lives in New Zealand should know. Australia has 5 times the population of New Zealand and even Switzerland has a bigger population than New Zealand, but...
And that is precisely why not much was said of the runner that this thread is about. Why? because many men were cheating and were not going to dob in the many women who also were.
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Mu and Sydney M-L are evolutionary athletes, but they will not touch the 400m or 800m records. Anyone who has coached high school boys has a good perspective on what it takes to run the WR times.
Well, these 2 don't race often for a reason... they will at least get close.
On July 26, 1983, Czechoslovakia’s Jarmila Kratochvilova set the world record in the 800m with an astonishing time of 1:53.28 in Munich, West Germany. She negative split in 56.82/56.46. She was 32 years old at the time. Primarily a 400m runner (Olympic silver in 1980), this was only the second time she had ever competed in the 800m. Her only previous race was in September 1982 when she ran 1:56.59.
Two weeks later, at the first World Championships held in Helsinki, Finland, Kratochvilova broke the world record in the 400m with a time of 47.99, becoming the first woman to break 48 seconds. (Her record was broken two years later by East Germany’s Marita Koch but remains the #2 time ever run). In addition to the WR and gold in the 400m, she also won gold in the 800m in a time of 1:54.68 (#7 all-time) and anchored the 4x400m relay to a silver medal.
At age 27, her best 200m was 23.96; five years later, at age 32, she ran the 400m at nearly the identical pace (47.99).
According to the World Athletics Tables: 23.96 = 1040 points = 54.28 = 2:07.05 47.99 = 1288 points 1:53.28 = 1286 points
Her 400m progression was as follows: Age 25 – 53.39 Age 27 – 51.09 Age 28 – 52.31 Age 29 – 49.46 Age 30 – 48.61 (#2 all-time when it was run) Age 31 – 48.85 Age 32 – 47.99 (World record at the time) Age 33 – 49.02 Age 34 – 49.89
Kratochvilova’s PRs at the time she set the 800m record were: 100m – 11.09 200m – 21.97 (4th fastest ever at the time, #3 performer – only Marita Koch and Evelyn Ashford had run faster) 400m – 48.45 (dropped to 47.99 two weeks later)
In 1943, the world record was 2:16.8; forty years later, the record was 1:53.28. Another forty years later, the record remains 1:53.28.
As far as I know, there is no video of the 800m race in its entirety. Below is a video of the second lap of the WR race. The 400m world record from Helsinki is also linked, as is a 1995 documentary about Kratochvilova.
On July 26, 1983, Czechoslovakia’s Jarmila Kratochvilova set the world record in the 800m with an astonishing time of 1:53.28 in Munich, West Germany. She negative split in 56.82/56.46. She was 32 years old at the time. Primarily a 400m runner (Olympic silver in 1980), this was only the second time she had ever competed in the 800m. Her only previous race was in September 1982 when she ran 1:56.59.
Two weeks later, at the first World Championships held in Helsinki, Finland, Kratochvilova broke the world record in the 400m with a time of 47.99, becoming the first woman to break 48 seconds. (Her record was broken two years later by East Germany’s Marita Koch but remains the #2 time ever run). In addition to the WR and gold in the 400m, she also won gold in the 800m in a time of 1:54.68 (#7 all-time) and anchored the 4x400m relay to a silver medal.
At age 27, her best 200m was 23.96; five years later, at age 32, she ran the 400m at nearly the identical pace (47.99).
According to the World Athletics Tables: 23.96 = 1040 points = 54.28 = 2:07.05 47.99 = 1288 points 1:53.28 = 1286 points
Her 400m progression was as follows: Age 25 – 53.39 Age 27 – 51.09 Age 28 – 52.31 Age 29 – 49.46 Age 30 – 48.61 (#2 all-time when it was run) Age 31 – 48.85 Age 32 – 47.99 (World record at the time) Age 33 – 49.02 Age 34 – 49.89
Kratochvilova’s PRs at the time she set the 800m record were: 100m – 11.09 200m – 21.97 (4th fastest ever at the time, #3 performer – only Marita Koch and Evelyn Ashford had run faster) 400m – 48.45 (dropped to 47.99 two weeks later)
In 1943, the world record was 2:16.8; forty years later, the record was 1:53.28. Another forty years later, the record remains 1:53.28.
As far as I know, there is no video of the 800m race in its entirety. Below is a video of the second lap of the WR race. The 400m world record from Helsinki is also linked, as is a 1995 documentary about Kratochvilova.
Mu and Sydney M-L are evolutionary athletes, but they will not touch the 400m or 800m records. Anyone who has coached high school boys has a good perspective on what it takes to run the WR times.
Well, these 2 don't race often for a reason... they will at least get close.
Because they are scared of losing/ racing while they aren’t at peak fitness. They could race more if they wanted to/ cared about the sport (which they don’t).
Well, these 2 don't race often for a reason... they will at least get close.
Because they are scared of losing/ racing while they aren’t at peak fitness. They could race more if they wanted to/ cared about the sport (which they don’t).
Just stop and think for a bit. They are giving up prize money, appearance fees and TV time... because they don't care? Lol. Come on man
Yes. An transgender/DSD expert has told me they believe wholeheartedly she was DSD. For years people have claimed on the forums here letsrun that she has given birth as articles often talk about her kids. I wrote the expert about that in 2017 and the expert replied, "I am 99% certain that Jelimo is intersex and never gave birth to a baby. It is actually possible to be intersex and give birth, but if one has an XY DSD - and it is this subset of intersex conditions that are at that root of the sports issues - then one will not be born with internal female organs, and hence cannot give birth."
If they are going to let Men Compete as Women, how can they justify Banning DSD's?
You, like many other people, are confused. DSD athletes are NOT banned. They can compete if they reduce their testosterone to normal female levels.
Interesting that the swimming women’s DDR records of the 80’s have been beaten by many.
World Aquatics and fans of the sport of swimming are lucky that there was far more room for improvement in swimming technique, training, and technology since the 1980s. Swimmers are only starting to approach the kind of flattening of world record improvement curves that happened in running many decades ago. If today's female swimmers were able to dope to the level of East German swimmers of the 80's their records would live forever; the way that the shot put record will.
The solution is that world athletics needs to someday have a reset on the record books in select events where post drug testing regime records are viewed as the true record, while older obviously doped records are relegated to a historical status similar to unverified newspaper accounts of running times recorded by mechanical clock at closed events from the 1800's.
The underwaters and dolphin kicks totally changed swimming. Forty years ago the swimmers turned and were on the surface immediately. Now the best ones remain underwater for nearly the full allowable 15 meters. They surface with plenty of momentum and simply fewer meters to swim than the old days. That's the primary reason the numbers have plummeted.
Track didn't have anything like that, well not until the super shoes added some centimeters to each stride.
The swimming cheat code was the briefly legal supersuits of 2009. Every world record was being obliterated, and many of those records still stand, to the disgust of avid swimming fans. They root for each one to be picked off. Last night there was finally the long awaited eclipse of the women's 200 freestyle record. An Italian star set that in 2009 while wearing one supersuit on top of another one.
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