We have merged two threads on this topic into 1 and kept the title of the longer thread. The other thread was called, "Adeline Johnson, high school senior, misses state due to biological male taking the last spot in California."
The thing I find strange about it all is that it's just so obvious, but we're all supposed to pretend we don't notice the donkey running with the thoroughbreds?
This is just bat sh..t crazy, this World is circling the drain. I have no problem with this boy saying he is now a girl, that is not the issue. You just can't compete in sports as a girl, it is a slap in the face to these real girls who have trained hard for a long time to have to compete against a boy.....C'Mon Man sports are off limits to man to woman trans...you NEVER see a woman to man trans competing with the men!!!!!!
There are 13 girls in California with faster 1600m times than the subject of this thread. Should they end their seasons to appease your outrage? Why did they even bother training this year?
All that matters is that one biological girl has been left home this weekend.
How could anyone have such a low self respect as these trans weirdo's? You are such a worm ya have to play with the girls, really guy?
No parent should allow their daughter around these freaks. I wouldn't.
No post with language like this should have upvotes. Come on, LR.
I agree that the language sucks and much of this has delved into transphobia. I also think that we've spent a lot of time focusing on how to be polite and respectful that we've let women get trampled over in the process.
The look on the 4th place runner's face on the awards stand says it all. She's not going to state this year, and the sentiment is wildly unfair.
I cannot imagine as a trans woman thinking this is fair at any age. If I were a trans girl, and say I came out senior year--I spent the last three years running 17:30 5Ks, and 4:45 miles, 4th or 5th on my boy's team, solidly average, and then suddenly I'm on the starting line at Footlocker Nationals competing for a title? I couldn't do it. I couldn't look my female teammates in the eye, the one that was 7th on the team who got bumped to 8th and has to watch her team compete at state from the sidelines, the one who was 1st bumped to second on the team, not receive MVP honors, or the accolades she deserves and get bumped down, let alone competitors...how do trans athletes convince themselves this is fair?
There is a way to do this without being dehumanizing. Without saying weirdo and freak and all this. But can we say selfish? Can we say self aggrandizing? Can we say narcissistic? Can we say arrogant? Can we say condescending? Can we say mysoginistic? Can we say manipulative?
Actual evidence is very thin on the ground in that bit of ideologically captured waffle.
Some countries have begun actually looking closely at the evidence, though.
In Sweden, for example, the national health board has stopped recommending the use of puberty blockers due to the lack of evidence that such treatment is either effective or safe.
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I think it's ridiculous to say "you don't need to have gender dysphoria to be trans." That's offensive to people who have gender dysphoria.
You have no idea what my "ideology" is, so stop talking about it.
The view that having "gender dysphoria" is necessary "to be trans" is not only inaccurate, it's now widely considered "transphobic."
Today, expecting people to have "gender dysphoria" - or any other kind of distress - as a prerequisite to adopting a trans gender identity is regarded as old-fashioned and oppressive "gatekeeping."
The widely accepted view amongst trans advocates today is that anyone should be able to adopt a trans gender identity - and gain access to the sports, spaces and services of the sex of their choosing - for whatever reason, and for no reason at all. As the saying goes, "Trans people don't owe anyone any explanations!"
Moreover, the most widespread view today in the gender identity movement and amongst those who provide so-called "gender affirming care" is that once a person announces they are trans, they should have unfettered access on demand to all the medical interventions they desire - such as "puberty blockers," testosterone suppressants, cross-sex hormones and an array of plastic surgeries and cosmetic procedures - so that they can reach their "embodiment goals" and attain their "ideal morphology."
The view in vogue amongst providers, consumers and adovocates of "gender affirming care" is that the costs of all these interventions - as well as revisions and reversals of them - should be paid for without question by private health insurance, public healtsh insurance like Medicaid and Medicare, and/or government health systems like the UK's NHS.
Also, for the record: lots of people who previously had, and currently have, "gender dysphoria" do not identify as "trans" and never did.
Suggesting that everyone with "gender dysphoria" is trans is offensive to the great many people with "gender dysphoria" who have chosen or found other ways to deal with the distress, unease and unhappiness they experience.
Except for this predictable verbal urinaria, I didn’t see anyone else suggest that “everyone with ‘gender dysphoria’” is trans”. Discombobulated logic is an excuse to spew out more words, I suppose.
🏃Trans-identifying male, Athena Ryan (Jr) took 2nd today in the “Girls 1600m” at a CA State Championship qualifier meet in Dublin, CA.
Ryan beamed while 4th place senior, Adeline Johnson gave a thumb down after losing the chance to advance to the State Championships by 1 spot. pic.twitter.com/iY2InxvhJt
Adeline Johnson visibly gives a thumbs down. I feel so bad for her.
And for all the people saying that they should protest and not show up to the podium, this is what you compete for--a chance to stand on the podium and a chance to advance. She shouldn't have to give up her moment to protest adult failures.
Adeline Johnson visibly gives a thumbs down. I feel so bad for her.
And for all the people saying that they should protest and not show up to the podium, this is what you compete for--a chance to stand on the podium and a chance to advance. She shouldn't have to give up her moment to protest adult failures.
oh and look, she's a senior. That was her last shot.
Actual evidence is very thin on the ground in that bit of ideologically captured waffle.
Some countries have begun actually looking closely at the evidence, though.
In Sweden, for example, the national health board has stopped recommending the use of puberty blockers due to the lack of evidence that such treatment is either effective or safe.
In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years, receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality over a 12-month follow-up.
This cohort study investigates whether gender-affirming care is associated with decreased depression, anxiety, and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youths.
During the study period, appearance congruence, positive affect, and life satisfaction increased, and depression and anxiety symptoms decreased. Increases in appearance congruence were associated with concurrent increases in positive affect and life satisfaction and decreases in depression and anxiety symptoms.
How could anyone have such a low self respect as these trans weirdo's? You are such a worm ya have to play with the girls, really guy? Time to stop playing along with this BS and put a stop to it now, tell the kid to snap out of it he isn't a girl......OBVIOUSLY~~~~~~~~~~~~
No parent should allow their daughter around these freaks. I wouldn't.
Where was all this when I was in school? Nobody had any problems figuring out......I;m a boy,....why the confusion now?
Exactly. The same for gay people, they basically didn’t exist until a few decades ago. And left handed people, too. They also didn’t exist until after World War II. Where the hell did they come from?
Adeline Johnson visibly gives a thumbs down. I feel so bad for her.
And for all the people saying that they should protest and not show up to the podium, this is what you compete for--a chance to stand on the podium and a chance to advance. She shouldn't have to give up her moment to protest adult failures.
Wait theirs two Male to Female athletes qualified for the state meet in the girls 1600? For 4 pages i thought just Laralei Barrett had qualified, then you drop this on me.
Adeline Johnson visibly gives a thumbs down. I feel so bad for her.
And for all the people saying that they should protest and not show up to the podium, this is what you compete for--a chance to stand on the podium and a chance to advance. She shouldn't have to give up her moment to protest adult failures.
Really? Why the particular warmth just for Adeline alone? Don’t you feel bad also for the trans girl who had to suffer transphobia during her shining moment of accomplishment. Or do you just not give a damn about the other girl’s feelings?
Actual evidence is very thin on the ground in that bit of ideologically captured waffle.
Some countries have begun actually looking closely at the evidence, though.
In Sweden, for example, the national health board has stopped recommending the use of puberty blockers due to the lack of evidence that such treatment is either effective or safe.
So let’s see, FINA and WA now requires trans girls to do what the Swedish national health board recommends against in order to ever have a shot at competitive sport they regulate. Should Swedish trans girls sue those sport governing bodies for implicitly incentivizing unsafe medical practices?
How could anyone have such a low self respect as these trans weirdo's? You are such a worm ya have to play with the girls, really guy? Time to stop playing along with this BS and put a stop to it now, tell the kid to snap out of it he isn't a girl......OBVIOUSLY~~~~~~~~~~~~
No parent should allow their daughter around these freaks. I wouldn't.
Where was all this when I was in school? Nobody had any problems figuring out......I;m a boy,....why the confusion now?
Exactly. The same for gay people, they basically didn’t exist until a few decades ago. And left handed people, too. They also didn’t exist until after World War II. Where the hell did they come from?
Must be the cell towers causing all this epidemic of perversion in modern times.
In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years, receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality over a 12-month follow-up.
This study consists of sending mental health questionnaires to these youths over a period of 12 months.
So it is not in any way concerned with any physical health aspects or any sort of long-term consequences. Only the self-reported mental state of the victims during the first year of back-patting stunning-and-bravery.
Absolute garbage. If you did the same thing with people who'd just joined some other cult like Scientology I'm sure you could get an equally rosy picture.
But at least people who leave Scientology won't have lost their fertility, ability to orgasm, bone density or require life long expensive medication.
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