Molly Seidel out of Nagoya Marathon - Is she done?

Hi, Tipper.

Yes, I was bring up her immature behavior. Stick it to the Man attitude.

Wrong. Marathon course doesn’t count but half does. Check the USATF site listing the qualifiers. Seems weird, but there we go.

she may or may not have distorted the truth in a couple of non running related social media posts to gain attention.

The same people accusing her of being a liar are convinced that the Adderall story is 100% genuine.

I like Molly (no sarcasm) but others have mentioned alleged immaturity in the past. The boyfriend thing is a bit concerning if he's into pentagrams. The penises and other things--I'm not going to be judgy about those; everyone likes their own things and whatever; it's good.

I disagree that she's a bad influence. I think she's good but she is still trying to balance fame and also stay sane too--it's a lot thrown at her all at once.

yes, she is done. she was done as of her olympic medal, which is an amazing achievement. she has zero chance of making the next olympic team. the field is very solid and the depth has improved markedly since the last trials. i agree that jogging a trail race under a fake name while "injured" was very strange. like anybody there would know or care who she was. now she can ride out the rest of her puma contract and invest the money in her future.

Actually, I think sometimes Molly has been a little too honest. For example, admitting that she was purging her food during the Olympics. So everyone looks up to her as a successful female runner icon and she demonstrates that this success is possible while degrading your body. Not saying she doesn't have a right to struggle, but I feel like she could vaguely allude to 'struggling with mental health' over X months rather than divulging the details of behaviors like purging. I don't think Molly necessarily 'owes' anything to anyone and certainly she is not responsible for anyone's mental well being but her own... however when in the public eye, having some filter is probably for the best, especially with topics such as bulimia.

I stand corrected. I read somewhere Mesa was net -350, but I guess it's only -200, and the limit is -225.

That's a good point. Social media, the comparison trap, instagram, blogsnarkers and the like are also a problem with this--the runners feel like they have to prove themselves to those idiots when they don't need to and should just shut out the noise.

Her "audience" are creepy men.

The general public have no idea who she is. They only know kipchoge, Farah etc.

USADA protecting another US Olympic medallist. Let's see if her suspension is only 1 year.

Bro Centro is never going to be in 3:34 1500/3:50 Mile fitness. He can't even break 4 in any race, Roads or Indoors. His recent 800 was 1:56. That wouldn't even get you into D1.

As for Molly, she was a one-hit wonder. Her GREATEST performances were legit her losing. Bronze in Tokyo. 4th in New York. And 2nd at the Trials. Giving the growing and faster competition in Emma Bates, Sara Hall, Keira D'Amato, and Emily Sisson. I don't see Molly regaining some 2:24 Fitness. Much less than Sub-2:20 she needs to ever medal again.

Yeah the pentagrams and just a ton of occult stuff in general are on his Instagram page. The thing about the penises is they seem to be genuinely pornographic (and there are photos of naked women from porn on his Instagram page too). It’s all public so you can easily confirm all this. I think some of the pentagrams are on his tattoos too, and I’m 99% sure I recall seeing one be a bumper sticker on his car. Guy seems to be a really weird and bad dude overall tbh.

I agree it’s hard to balance fame, but how many excuses for immaturity can we make? Literally look at every other runner her age —-not just now, but I’m running history—-and none of them are posting 69 jokes and etc all the time. Drew, Grant, Galen, name any pro runner, and I just haven’t ever seen any of them stoop to middle school humor or drop f bombs and cuss words in from of high schoolers

I’m confused……where’s the evidence for the trail race under a fake name? And how did people find out? And……why did she do it..? How fast did she run?

Funny since everyone got mad at Galen Rupp for NOT having an Instagram and focusing solely on himself and not his fan base…

Molly is the epitome of what Americans tend to Support in Distance Running — Mediocrity.

Her Half Marathon PB if held for a Marathon wouldn't even hit the top 20 fastest Marathon list.

Her Marathon time doesn't aid her in anything. She medaled and gains publicity through being Anti-Men on Podcast appearances. Then she went AWOL after she couldn't keep up with the Real Elites in Boston last year and blamed her mental health and whatnot.

We see this too much with guys like Scott Fable, Cooper Teare, Elise Cranny, and many more. They're better than Amateur runners but on the world stage, get dropped by so many people. Grant Fisher is the only one who stepped up the last couple years. Even then, It was a time trialed effort (His 10K) but he still destroyed everyone in 2022.

Anyways, point is Molly Seidel is done. If she makes a comeback, It's only temporary before she blames something else other than herself for not being able to keep up with the Kenyans.

AND * this * is why she's done. The idiocy and immaturity-- or well-intentioned mental unwellness-- of her "social media" life / persona almost certainly mitigates against her ever getting it together.

As long as she's relying on "personality" and dipsh*t public approbation for her non-running feats, she'll never attain peak performance again.

If she were vague about her struggles during the olympics then people would call her a whiner and a quitter. She was also very honest about the fact that her eating disorder was a part of her demise after Tokyo, and wasn't helping her in any way. I don't think she's glorifying the behavior or leading others to believe that they will have similar success if they follow her exact path.

sorry the truth makes you uncomfortable.