Wilt and Russell did track in college. It's verified. Not to mention the video footage of then demonstrating insane speed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWelUNrJUMM).
You obviously are lying about having played high-level full court basketball. If you had, you would know it is a highly, highly aerobic activity. You're being such a pedant by talking about the length of the court. Sure the court is short, but they're constantly running all over it.
When you combine that aerobic conditioning with superhuman levels of explosiveness, as in Zion's case, there is zero doubt to any reasonable person that he could break 60. The over/under on his true 400 speed is probably something like 54 seconds.
I'm sorry, the sub 50s are VERIFIED?!?! Like, track results verified, not wikipedia verified? PLEASE hook us up with THAT citation!
All these posts doubtbing Zion and you've never even heard of Wilt Chamberlains track times?
32.9 BMI, 30% BF. We're talking about Zion @285, not if Zion lost 30 lbs with 3 months of special training. Sure many bball players can run sub 60 easy, but not a hugely overweight one no matter his vertical jump.
The fact that you meant this ironically means we all now know you've never played a sport in your life.
also the fact that the vertical jump in question is literally 99.9999th percentile athletic ability and the 400m time in question is probably 40th percentile? Dude???
I doubt Zion. Being out of shape has been his stock and trade. But I don’t doubt that athletes from NBA and NFL (and more recently soccer players) over 60 or so years would have made US track record books unrecognizable. that is where our athletic talent goes.
32.9 BMI, 30% BF. We're talking about Zion @285, not if Zion lost 30 lbs with 3 months of special training. Sure many bball players can run sub 60 easy, but not a hugely overweight one no matter his vertical jump.
I'm sorry but anybody who doesn't believe he can run sub 60 quarters just doesn't know what its like to be athletic.
It's painfully clear some of you have never played a sport besides XC in your life.
I damn near broke 50 off of nothing but football training and I was not the fastest on the team.
Do you weigh 280 pounds?
Can I hit my forehead on the rim?
Idk why everybody is acting like his 280 means the same thing as a normal person weighing 280, the man is 6'6 and his frame is filled out with muscle in the same proportion as any other very muscular average height person, making him 280. If you have ever met a normal 6'6 person they are usually quite skinny and actually can't jump at all because they don't have the muscles to effectively pull the longer levers that are their limbs. They have to deal with exceptional size working with average muscle. Zion's insane genetics allow him to basically be a normally proportioned human at 6'6, meaning his muscles are strong enough to move his weight in the same proportions as any average sized athlete. In fact just by looking at him its clear he even exceeds the typical strength to weight ratio of pretty much every athlete on earth. This is why he is in the NBA. All of this should have been pretty obvious the moment you see him propel his own 280 pound body farther in the air then we could ever hope to propel our own 150 pound bodies.
This may shock you, but vertical jump is an even more weight-graded measurement of explosiveness than sprinting is. Heavy athletes fair worse in a vertical jump than in a sprint.
Not only is he breaking 60, he is demolishing 60 seconds if he wanted to in a real race.
I'm sorry, the sub 50s are VERIFIED?!?! Like, track results verified, not wikipedia verified? PLEASE hook us up with THAT citation!
All these posts doubtbing Zion and you've never even heard of Wilt Chamberlains track times?
lol
It's common knowledge.
Wilt
As an avid track and field athlete, Chamberlain high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 yards in 49.0 seconds and the 880 yards in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, and long jumped 22 feet.
As a HS coach, I love getting a few basketball players out on the track after their bball season ends. Basketball players often make good jumpers and quarter milers. I had a 6-5, gangly, can't quite dunk, bball player make my state finals 4x4 relay just last spring. I have no doubt Zion can go under 60 and probably look pretty smooth while doing so.
Heck, some bball players can even manage decent 800s and 1600s off their bball season training.
32.9 BMI, 30% BF. We're talking about Zion @285, not if Zion lost 30 lbs with 3 months of special training. Sure many bball players can run sub 60 easy, but not a hugely overweight one no matter his vertical jump.
Zion is not 'hugely overweight'
There is this thing called 'muscle'.
Overweight enough to damage his legs, over and over. Muscle that is incapable to supporting his body to avoid injury.
All these posts doubtbing Zion and you've never even heard of Wilt Chamberlains track times?
lol
It's common knowledge.
Wilt
As an avid track and field athlete, Chamberlain high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 yards in 49.0 seconds and the 880 yards in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, and long jumped 22 feet.
His high jump was done the old style way. Face-down, scissor kick. There is some height that should be added to the 6'6" to compare it better to today's flop jumpers.
All of the distance guys knew that a match race against certain throwers at 200m indoors on our D1 team was a sucker bet. Those guys could get under 30 easily; I think one ran a 26 once.
I had a shot putter teammate in high school that was 5'11" 270 pounds and we had a fun 4x400 relay at the one of the mid season meets senior year and he ran 70 seconds.
Idk if I believe Zion running sub 60 second 400s unless it was just 1 and that's still unlikely.
6'6" 285 with a 40" vertical is far, far more likely to run sub-60 than 5'11" 270 with 25" vertical.
Normal 5'11" weight is only about 160-70, whereas a 6'6" guy is typically 200-220, so Zion's a lot slimmer than your shot putter, who is 110 lbs over the normal weight for his height
Idk what it is about this site. My guess is most never played organized sports at a high level besides track. The games are arguably just as tiring as running a race if you actually hustle and push yourself. If you have a full season you could whip yourself into 400/800/1600 shape on the games alone.
Idk what it is about this site. My guess is most never played organized sports at a high level besides track. The games are arguably just as tiring as running a race if you actually hustle and push yourself. If you have a full season you could whip yourself into 400/800/1600 shape on the games alone.
Well to be fair to this site there are only one or two dummies really arguing against the notion that Zion could break 60 in the 400. Most of us are in agreement and on the same page about this. The dude dunked from the free throw line. I.e. his leaping ability is basically as good as Jordans. He is an absolute freak athlete. He is regularly training explosive jumps, sprints, anaerobic and aerobic conditioning. 60 400m? No prob.
He is extraordinarily quick with world class vertical - he’s fast.
I mean even the slowest, least competitive guys in my track club can break 60 in a 400. I'm not saying it isn't impressive or anything like that—but I don't know if "fast" is the best description of whats going on. Maybe "fast" for people that size, but in the general sense, not really.
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