New detailed info about Shelby/btc relationship

The thing is, when you look at her instagram posts, most people seem to support her there. I don't think she looks at the "haters" elsewhere. So maybe she thinks it's helping get her "story" out.

I also really believe that she thinks she didn't do anything wrong. That she was justified in some way.

Of course Nike/BTC is covering their own asses on this. They cannot throw Shelby under the bus because she has the goods on all of them. I would even guess that they are still paying her off the books. It was perfectly obvious that her training partners Cranny and Schweizer were doping right along with her.

Would recommend hitting CTRL-F and searching "Stafford" for the only parts of this worth reading.

It is obvious that Houlihan continued training with BTC during her "ban" -- the coaches and athletes who participated in this are all subject to contamination sanctions according to the regulations.

That's a lifestyle choice. But doping is cheating. :)

We prob need to do a deeper dive into the gym sessions. Do gym sessions count as "official practice"? If so, Shelby has clearly violated the rules and she, Shalane and Jerry should face consequences of that.

Nice use of the word Storied. scramble and it’s steroid……

Sorry. Should credit initial post.

If you'd fully followed the story (ie. read the report) you'd know that the substance found in her system was consistent with a synthetic origin, therefore it didn't get there due a pregnancy that was miscarried before pregnancy testing.

The physical evidence in the report makes it very clear that Shelby's positive did not come about from "natural" means like pregnancy or meat consumption. The only question is whether it was intentional (oral pills with short half-life, unfortunate timing of test) or unintentional (contaminated supplement or medication).

The answer to this question is mostly irrelevant since doping violations are strict liability. What Shelby seems to object to now is that aspect (strict liability)... but if we didn't have that it would be very difficult to charge someone with a doping violation since there can be endless possibilities of how something gets into your body and it would be impossible to test everything that could have exposed the person (because the evidence would be destroyed aka eaten by the time we get to it).

It’s called “deleting the negative comments”! Of course then all you have visible are friends supporting you

Her instagram is even more heavily moderated than LRC. Her last post were some holiday pics on the Virgin Islands. I casually asked if there were any foodtrucks there she could recommend. It was deleted within hours.

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that the woman running the lab was reported to have been previously caught falsifying test results on another athlete?

That alone should have been reason enough to throw the whole thing out.

Fact? What is your evidence for this accusation?

Wouldn't count on this. Maybe in terms of hype, not necessarily performance. There's no evidence that Flanagan can develop athletes worth jack - physiologically or psychologically. There was a lot of noise about the "Shalane effect", then as soon she became a coach the women's side of BTC imploded. Henes, thus far, has been successful at keeping a lot of successful athletes happily coexisting. Flanagan has been a princess her entire life so it remains to be seen if she can create an environment where it's not all about her or whoever the top dog of the moment happens to be.

Good points but, to be fair, Marion Jones went to jail for fraud and lying under oath, not doping per se.

It seems Shelby was in control. And everyone had to accomadate Shelby. Why didn't they tell her to stay away? Why did she have so much control?

And getting fundraising from Letsrun. How is this allowed? What a rotten world.

She has a college degree already. Her contract, prize money, and bonuses paid her enough to have saved up for a master’s despite the legal fees. Shelby can easily get a $50k a year job right now (most employers wouldn’t care enough about her doping suspension). She’d still have plenty of time to train hard. Even if she is innocent, her inability to move on a year and a half later and seek stable employment is all on her.

If true, I'm betting they were willing to reduce it to a three year ban because of how this Olympic cycle is shortened. Like Shelby, and anyone with a brain, pointed out in some statement whenever ago, a four year ban meant missing two Olympic Games instead of the usual one. The three year ban probably supposed to be a huge incentive so she would save them the time and effort of the trial in exchange for eligibility for 2024