'Tygart is right that the WADA Code railroads athletes to 4-year bans, by removing any benefit of the doubt and treating athletes who say they do not know how they tested positive the same as intentional cheaters.'
Just corrected that for you
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ukathleticscoach wrote:
'Tygart is right that the WADA Code railroads athletes to 4-year bans, by removing any benefit of the doubt and treating athletes who say they do not know how they tested positive the same as intentional cheaters.'
Just corrected that for you
I agree with you that Tygart is right about the need for WADA Code reform. Artificially removing any benefit of the doubt, for the sake of convenience of anti-doping prosecutions, leads to railroading athletes to 4-year bans, as if they were considered intentional cheaters.
Thanks for your support.
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El Keniano wrote:
Medium Level Ball Gargler wrote:
After working with many Kenyans in the US collegiate program, I have found that cheating is just a way of life in their home country. Not necessarily "doping," but...bending to full on breaking the rules, whether its for jobs, academic integrity - or yes - drugs. That's just what they do - I'm not sure it's seen as "cheating" in Kenya - rather a clever "community effort" to get ahead in life. Doesn't mean it's still not cheating. It's been...frustrating trying to help them assimilate to US culture & understand what "cheating" is.
Bull s***! You don't know any Kenyans. Typical of Letsrun (including the founders)trying to make like Kenyans are inherently dishonest.
What do you know about it living in America?
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This is not possible because Kenyans have no reason to dope. They are a superior race
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rekrunner wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:
'Tygart is right that the WADA Code railroads athletes to 4-year bans, by removing any benefit of the doubt and treating athletes who say they do not know how they tested positive the same as intentional cheaters.'
Just corrected that for you
I agree with you that Tygart is right about the need for WADA Code reform. Artificially removing any benefit of the doubt, for the sake of convenience of anti-doping prosecutions, leads to railroading athletes to 4-year bans, as if they were considered intentional cheaters.
Thanks for your support.
No, I pointed out that there is a difference in an athlete saying they did not know where the drug came from and the truth.
Since when did an athlete ever admit to doping.
Keep supporting your cheats
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rekrunner wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:
'Tygart is right that the WADA Code railroads athletes to 4-year bans, by removing any benefit of the doubt and treating athletes who say they do not know how they tested positive the same as intentional cheaters.'
Just corrected that for you
I agree with you that Tygart is right about the need for WADA Code reform. Artificially removing any benefit of the doubt, for the sake of convenience of anti-doping prosecutions, leads to railroading athletes to 4-year bans, as if they were considered intentional cheaters.
Thanks for your support.
No just pointing out the difference between saying you do not know where the drug came from and the truth.
Keep supporting your dopers though and remember they are always innocent!
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NYDCRunner1 wrote:
So if WADA and the AIU can catch Kenyans, why are they not able to catch Ethiopians?
Compare the two governments of these nations.
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Hdoer wrote:
Armstronglivs you appear to be obsessed with doping in sports. If it is so obvious that the top athletes are doping, and I assume most are, why do you want to incessantly belabor the obvious?
If you assume most top athletes are doping then sport is lost to the cheats. You don't appear to care about that. However, most fans and a fair number here choose to believe sport is mostly clean. So doping isn't as obvious as you think.
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rekrunner wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You don't have to Google nandrolone if you're taking it.
Well you just proved her innocent then. Well done.
Dumb as f*ck, aren't you. She knew perfectly well what it was. That's why she was taking it.
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Rule cheeker wrote:
DougC wrote:
Considering how important doping is in professional athletics, it would be asinine for an accomplished athlete and coach not to be *very* familiar with which drugs are banned. I’ve been subject to a competition with doping controls only six times in my life, and each time I read carefully the drugs listed. I find it unbelievably stupid for a professional athlete not to know what’s on the prohibited list. it’s their LIVELIHOOD at stake.
You require a Doctorate to understand the banned list. Have to read it?
Liar soorer - back with your weird delusions. If it requires a doctorate to understand the banned list then no athletes would use the drugs on the list. But they do. In considerable numbers.
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Medium Level Ball Gargler wrote:
After working with many Kenyans in the US collegiate program, I have found that cheating is just a way of life in their home country. Not necessarily "doping," but...bending to full on breaking the rules, whether its for jobs, academic integrity - or yes - drugs. That's just what they do - I'm not sure it's seen as "cheating" in Kenya - rather a clever "community effort" to get ahead in life. Doesn't mean it's still not cheating. It's been...frustrating trying to help them assimilate to US culture & understand what "cheating" is.
Not my experience at all with the Kenyans (and other internationals) on my college track team.
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ukathleticscoach wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
I agree with you that Tygart is right about the need for WADA Code reform. Artificially removing any benefit of the doubt, for the sake of convenience of anti-doping prosecutions, leads to railroading athletes to 4-year bans, as if they were considered intentional cheaters.
Thanks for your support.
No, I pointed out that there is a difference in an athlete saying they did not know where the drug came from and the truth.
Since when did an athlete ever admit to doping.
Keep supporting your cheats
That's his life's purpose.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
Well you just proved her innocent then. Well done.
Dumb as f*ck, aren't you. She knew perfectly well what it was. That's why she was taking it.
Your impotence shows when you insult people like that.
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As said previously, I believe Rekrunner to be a troll.
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jacksprat wrote:
As said previously, I believe Rekrunner to be a troll.
I don't think so.
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casual obsever wrote:
NYDCRunner1 wrote:
So if WADA and the AIU can catch Kenyans, why are they not able to catch Ethiopians?
Compare the two governments of these nations.
I do not know enough of either to compare.
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NYDCRunner1 wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Compare the two governments of these nations.
I do not know enough of either to compare.
Ethiopia has had autocratic government for decades. At least Kenya is fairly democratic (on the 'Democracy Index', Ethiopia is at 123 with Russia one place behind, and Kenya is at number 93). The 'natural born runner' myth has been promoted by various Ethiopian governments and even before it was a thing in Kenya. The first East African star Bikila could have been written by a Hollywood scriptwriter, running barefoot to victory in the streets of Rome almost exactly 25 years after Italy had conquered Ethiopia. Before his victory, he was already a personal bodyguard to the emperor (the same one who Mussolini conquered). Anyone who thinks he wasn't doped to the max is naieve in the extreme.
The GDR actually modelled their system on that of the Ethiopians. Straub, Beyer, and the other dopers would train in Ethiopia, and Yifter and the Ethiopians would train with them in the GDR. I've made threads on this and every time the moderators delete them for whatever strange reason.
Everything about the athletics system in Kenya is chaotic. In Ethiopia, it's always been the reverse.
Plus the sheer size and number of remote training locations in Ethiopia. There's a reason doorbell Mo and others have it as their preferred full throttle hide out.
And now there is a WADA lab in Nairobi, but not sure it does much good as regards testing in Ethiopia.
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The Ethiopians run a tight ship. No AIU tester can catch an athlete there by surprise.
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