And the boys of letsrun start yet another “investigation” to discredit a successful woman runner. Better offer a reward for whoever said it to come forward to tell the “real” story!
Yep, bet he also sat next to Molly on a plane once, according to LRBF. Don’t you change, incel nation.
I didn’t say I cared, I was more just showing how regular an occurrence it is for people to feel entitled to say things to other people when they have no place. I probably shouldn’t have even described him as homeless. It’s quite possible he works a construction job that leaves him covered in dirt each day & hes used to it
I call BS. Is she really this thirsty for attention and affirmation? Does she really have to go into Allie Kieffer’s wheel house? I saw her through the concourse, nobody would tell that old lady she is too fat to be a marathoner to her face. She is tiny.
I wonder how Shericka Jackson would’ve handled the situation. I can’t imagine her sucking it up/failing to handle the situation properly and then writing a social media post about later.
Keira says she has highlighted this situation not because she was particularly bothered by the comment personally but because the attitude could affect others. Why on earth didn’t she feel the need to dress the person down or at least take the chance to point out the issues with the person at source.
Was she maybe instead thinking to herself ‘oooh this will make a perfect Instagram post, I reckon I’ll hit 20,000 likes if I word it correctly’?
Truth be told, she really isn't in peak marathon shape currently. She probably would be a few pounds lighter otherwise.
I am not saying she is in peak marathon shape, but I 100% think the "Keira had 2 weeks to train" is exaggerated. She had to know she was the alternate and she saw Molly pull out of Boston in April with an injury. She saw Molly drop out of the New York Mini-10K in the beginning of June because her TUE for Adderall still hadn't been approved. Anyone who follows Molly's social media knows she was a question mark for Worlds since spring. Keira can say what she wants about only having 2 weeks to "train," but I'm not buying it. She was watching, and she knew this was increasingly likely. I think it's probably likely USATF was in conversation with her early about keeping that date open. Our two A-Team runners, Bates and Hall, wanted no part of the aggressive and erratic pace change games the East Africans played in the early part of that race. D'Amato went out with the East Africans and tried to hang. That doesn't indicate someone who has the confidence of a runner on 2 weeks of marathon training. She clearly felt she could compete.
One would assume you know nothing about running yet come to a running site. She was NOT in peak marathon shape but she was "in shape." She had to decide on her summer/fall schedule and was NOT training to be an alternate at Worlds and run a marathon in mid-July. She was set for Peachtree and preparing for a fall marathon. That requires a different training approach which means she was not peaking for worlds.
Finally read her post. Why would she be a coward and not state the facts: "I placed 8th in the marathon" and educate and shut people up on the spot? I don't get it. I'm Hispanic and sometimes people don't know it so when they say something racist or stereotypical about Hispanics, I immediately put them in their place. She missed an opportunity to lead and educate.
So, now she made up a story? Or is this ENTIRE thread a made up story of a made up story of a made up story. What the f*cking hell?
Yes. There’s no f*inf way what she said happened, happened. I feel sorry for you if you believe sh*t like this. Guys don’t walk up to 100lbs girls saying the look to big for marathon running. She’s lying. Bring on the down votes. I just state facts
If someone says, "You're too big to be a marathoner," couldn't that be a compliment? Could they be telling you that you don't look gaunt, skeletal and like a stick figure? You've got some form, some shape, you look good?
But like someone said above, you just can't say anything about anyone's looks or body, in today's world. Especially, not man to woman.
Compliments, insults, generic non-statements...You can't say them. They're all insensitive, all insults.
"How DARE YOU!?"
I'd like to amend this, because I posted it before I read Keira's actual IG post. The way she describes it, I actually agree with her. If I'm sitting in a crowd watching an event and a total stranger starts talking to me, then starts making my body size, type and shape, the topic of the conversation, I'd pretty very annoyed. I'm a guy.
Yes, cancel culture has gone too far and sometimes people can be too eager to amplify perceived insensitivities. But that doesn't negate common sense. If I'm in a social setting, there's no way I'm going to strike up conversation with a total stranger and start commenting on their body size, shape, hair (or lack thereof), face, looks, or other aspects of their appearance. That's just common sense; or at least it should be.
I'd be thinking, "I just placed 8th in the World and proved I'm better than literally 4 billion others in my event, and you're sitting here telling me, a total stranger, there's something 'not quite right' about my body, for what I do? Seriously? What are you top 10 in the world at?"
yeah it’s weird in general for people to just comment on someone else’s body to their face. I’ve also 100% had random non-runner people say the exact same thing to me—that I was big for a runner or not small enough to be a runner at 5’7 and somewhere between 110-130 pounds.
my original college coach also definitely grouped people as 800/1500 v 5k/10k based on body size.
I'm a female sub-elite in my 30s, I am 5'9" and 130-135 lbs at "race weight," ~5 lbs more if not. I've been told by many, many people since age about 15 that I'm "too big" to be good distance runner. My primary distance has always been 5k plus.
In the real world I am very thin. I know this. In clothing I am usually an XS or S, size 4, or 25-26" waist. These are typically the smallest sizes sold in conventional stores in North America.
But in running world I am "big." At this point in my life it makes me laugh to be told this, but when I was younger it messed me up a lot and contributed to disordered eating/training. I think it's simplistic and naive to think that it's only the comments that do it - someone like me can easily look at the start line among their equals and see that they are much larger - but the comments can push you over the edge/invalidate you in a way that's important, especially if you are younger and less confident in how your body is. As an adult, I know that my body is the way it is, but when you're a teen you're going through a lot of change and there is doubt - you feel like you might be able to "fix it" by not eating or overtraining.
This is a very serious issue, I appreciate older athletes such as Keira addressing it.
I am not saying she is in peak marathon shape, but I 100% think the "Keira had 2 weeks to train" is exaggerated. She had to know she was the alternate and she saw Molly pull out of Boston in April with an injury. She saw Molly drop out of the New York Mini-10K in the beginning of June because her TUE for Adderall still hadn't been approved. Anyone who follows Molly's social media knows she was a question mark for Worlds since spring. Keira can say what she wants about only having 2 weeks to "train," but I'm not buying it. She was watching, and she knew this was increasingly likely. I think it's probably likely USATF was in conversation with her early about keeping that date open. Our two A-Team runners, Bates and Hall, wanted no part of the aggressive and erratic pace change games the East Africans played in the early part of that race. D'Amato went out with the East Africans and tried to hang. That doesn't indicate someone who has the confidence of a runner on 2 weeks of marathon training. She clearly felt she could compete.
One would assume you know nothing about running yet come to a running site. She was NOT in peak marathon shape but she was "in shape." She had to decide on her summer/fall schedule and was NOT training to be an alternate at Worlds and run a marathon in mid-July. She was set for Peachtree and preparing for a fall marathon. That requires a different training approach which means she was not peaking for worlds.
I didn’t say she was out of shape. She has been very clear that she was training for a 10K and looking for a fall marathon. I said it has been exaggerated that she was given 2 weeks notice to prepare and “train” (I put this in quotes because no one trains for a marathon 2 weeks beforehand). If the rest of us who follow the sport felt it was unlikely Molly would get to the start line (and you know USATF is aware of the TUE situation) and Jon/Molly went up to the deadline to notify for USATF of their decision, it stands to reason that USATF had an an alternate waiting in the wings a good deal before that 2 week deadline.
Maybe not. Maybe USATF really is that dumb and waited until that deadline then used a phone tree to see if anyone was free.
I still think it’s more likely they gave Keira a heads up and let her know there was a strong possibility she would get called up. And I think Keira probably did more marathon preparation than she let on. I watched the women’s marathon in person. She ran aggressively like she thought she would contend for a medal, not like someone who was peaking for a distance race less than a quarter of a marathon.
I’m not criticizing her. I’m just saying - it’s a wonderful story to say “I only had two weeks to prepare for this race,” but it felt a bit disingenuous.
I believe Kiera's post because I was told some version of "you're too big" from strangers, coaches, and family throughout my youth. On multiple occasions, my high school coach told me I was prone to injury because my hips were wider than my 70lb teammate. He literally drew a stick figure of my teammate, then a much thicker figure of me to illustrate how my "wide hips" were messing with my biomechanics. I was 5'9'' and 120lbs. He never said I was fat, just pointed out that I was not as thin as the fastest girl on my team.
Later in my 20s, I developed an overactive thyroid. Before I was finally diagnosed and treated, my weight dropped to about 90lbs, which is EXTREMELY underweight for my height. During that time, I had multiple old male strangers approach me in public places, saying things like "do you run, you look really fit!" and "you must be a runner, you look like one". I found these events upsetting because I was very underweight, and I never received these comments when I was at a healthier weight and running much faster.
So I don't think Kiera's height was why she was told she was "big". I think it's because some people's view of the "ideal" female runner's body is extremely underweight. It's very sad.
I'm a female sub-elite in my 30s, I am 5'9" and 130-135 lbs at "race weight," ~5 lbs more if not. I've been told by many, many people since age about 15 that I'm "too big" to be good distance runner. My primary distance has always been 5k plus.
In the real world I am very thin. I know this. In clothing I am usually an XS or S, size 4, or 25-26" waist. These are typically the smallest sizes sold in conventional stores in North America.
But in running world I am "big." At this point in my life it makes me laugh to be told this, but when I was younger it messed me up a lot and contributed to disordered eating/training. I think it's simplistic and naive to think that it's only the comments that do it - someone like me can easily look at the start line among their equals and see that they are much larger - but the comments can push you over the edge/invalidate you in a way that's important, especially if you are younger and less confident in how your body is. As an adult, I know that my body is the way it is, but when you're a teen you're going through a lot of change and there is doubt - you feel like you might be able to "fix it" by not eating or overtraining.
This is a very serious issue, I appreciate older athletes such as Keira addressing it.
I’m around the same height and weight when training for longer distances, and a few years ago a homeless guy by a subway station called me “jiggles” as I jogged by.
There have also been threads dedicated to Allie Kieffer, who apparently is “big” but is small in person when I have seen her at races.
I don’t think this issue bothers Keira on her own but sees she has a powerful platform to promote inclusivity on the body size front.
Claims a spectator at the WC told her she's too fat to be a marathoner. Really? IF this happened, he probably said "big", meaning tall. No need to go on about fat shaming and poor body imaging. Doubt it happened and sad to see Keira go the way of "poor me, I'm not getting enough attention." Is it a problem in sport? Yes. Is it a problem with Keira? No. Stay in your lane girl.