I was always hoping to see him get the WR and be the first sub 1:40. I guess it seemed possible in 2012. Sad to see. I guess we won't be making plans for Nigel.
We're only making plans, for Nigel. We only want what's best for him. We're only making plans, for Nigel. Nigel just needs that helping hand.
I'm waiting on the gofundme page for his legal defense that will be created by the site owners. Perhaps there are funds left over from the burrito woman.
So sad to read this doping by Amos. Maybe explains his extrem ups and downs in performance.Now he will Always be remembered as Amos the doper.A forbidden weight reducing substance.
Off the top of my head, I can name only two runners from Botswana - Amantle Montsho and Nijel Amos - and now both have tested positive for banned substances.
Amos also went missing from at least one drug test years ago, but did he accumulate the necessary number for suspension? I thought there was some attempt to attribute the missed tests to fear that he would test positive for marijuana, but that attribution becomes less credible now doesn't it?
Don’t forget the 400m guy. He’s not yet been busted, however.
That drug would do nothing to help an 800m runner other than as a weight loss supplement, and there are other things people can take that are not carcinogenic. One explanation is some shady character sold it to Amos in which case Amos is definitely guilty. Zero chance his coach would be involved - the coach would know the dangers and know that all it does is help lose weight. You don't want an 800m runner to develop more slow twitch fibers, that would only reduce his performance. So this whole thing is very strange. Seems plausible that Amos may have panicked about his fitness and got it from someone who was as ignorant about the drug as Amos is.
I can't imagine being a coach - if one of your athletes does something stupid you risk getting tainted yourself. It *is* rather coincidental his coach only days ago announced a move to coach at a Canadian group.
I believe Amos was clean in 2012 and yes he was 18, he clearly looked like a 17 or 18 year old so those accusing him of age cheating are idiots. His missed tests apparently had to do with his use of marijuana when he was doing a lot of electronic music DJ work. Out of competition cannabis use is now permitted.
If he is guilty of doping I will be very disappointed. I have been a big believer in his talent, work ethic and fearless style of running. I believe his stagnation the past few years was partially due to filling out into his adult body, but also changing his running form had a big role. So many coaches think they know something about biomechanics when they actually understand next to nothing on the subject. I think Amos was hindered by excessive weight work along with changing his natural running style. Funny as it looked, his flailing style carried him to that 2012 London silver and great clocking at 18.
Of course he did. .most of you are on or were on something in your prime.. Including you Weldon.
Pretend this is a press conference, you know, because you like to play journalist...
Mr. Johnson, there have been massive allegations against American and International athletes about PEDs that are coming to be true...how can you prove to us that you neither doped or used a USADA-banned substance while racing or training?
One of the things I know is that I was a hack runner and got to 4th in the country. Never made the NCAA meet so it gives me assurance there are some clean athletes way, way faster than me.
I wish you had that belief too . If I thought everyone was doping I wouldn’t follow the sport
To all those who doubt whether athletes and coaches have ever heard of drugs before (by there clinical name), here we have a former Olympic trialist and founder of a running website that encourages open discussion of doping saying he had never heard of a drug that has been discussed on his site for more than a decade...
Maybe it's not so unusual that those involved in high-performance running has not heard of every drug.
We’ll now that I see it written GW15I6guess I’ve seen it but I couldn’t tell you what it was. it was always one of those things I wasn’t sure what it was, so it never registered in the brain, but each time I’d see it might thing ‘oh I should look up that thing’ . Are there other drugs with random letters and numbers or is that the only one? I feel like I’d see a random number drug in the context of ‘you all are so naive . Steroids are 1970s , people have moved on to this. ‘ But since major people weren’t testing positive it didn’t register except as there are random number drugs
We’ll now that I see it written GW15I6guess I’ve seen it but I couldn’t tell you what it was. it was always one of those things I wasn’t sure what it was, so it never registered in the brain, but each time I’d see it might thing ‘oh I should look up that thing’ . Are there other drugs with random letters and numbers or is that the only one? I feel like I’d see a random number drug in the context of ‘you all are so naive . Steroids are 1970s , people have moved on to this. ‘ But since major people weren’t testing positive it didn’t register except as there are random number drugs
It's made up of numbers and letters because it never got beyond the first stage of clinical testing, as every mouse they gave it to quickly had cancer coming out of their ears and noses. It's often called cardarine and grouped in with SARMs, although I think technically it's not a SARM.
I just re-watched the 2012 men's 800m final -- one of my favorite races in recent track history.
Nijel seemed to experience a minor re-emergence this year.
I don't think he necessarily age cheated. He might just not know his actual day? Also, generally Americans look younger (up to a point where drugs, lack of sleep, etc., catch up with you).
I believe Kiprop said that he only tested positive because they didn't warn him before coming to test, not because he was new to doping.
Maybe you are confusing Kiprop with someone else?
Kiprop had multiple advance warnings as much as six days in advance. He was in constant contact with the Doping Control Officer from 21 Nov. to 26 Nov., attempting to schedule a time for the test that best suits Kiprop, before the test on 27 Nov. This was confirmed by screenshots of text messages, by the AIU, and a signed statement from the DCO who took the samples.
He says in his statement that he was notified the night before the test.
Personal Statement by Asbel Kiprop, Three-time World 1500M Champion. MY STATEMENT ASBEL KIPROP 3RD MAY 2018 NOTICE OF SAMPLE COLLECTION I have noted the main media reports alleging that I ha…
This was part of his of defense, but I was wrong about him blaming the lack of warning for his positive. It was Coleman who blamed the lack of warning for his missed test.
Amos was an obvious age cheat, claiming to be 18 when he was 25.
He went from 1:51 to 1:41 in less than two years. How?
By taking performance enhancing drugs. He was a drug cheat.
Botswana has zero drug testing and babies are not born in hospitals. They are born at home, so their is no official record of their birth. So these cheaters can claim any age they want.
Also, perhaps I'm being naieve, but I think it's a good sign when another obvious doper like Amos gets caught. It suggests that doping is not as widespread as many here believe among the elite.
Only Armstrong believes anyone faster than 1:46 is a doper.
To all those who doubt whether athletes and coaches have ever heard of drugs before (by there clinical name), here we have a former Olympic trialist and founder of a running website that encourages open discussion of doping saying he had never heard of a drug that has been discussed on his site for more than a decade...
Maybe it's not so unusual that those involved in high-performance running has not heard of every drug.
To do that they would have to also strip an Olympic gold marathon medal from an American. Thomas Hicks was doped with Strychnine DURING the Olympics race in 1904. Hicks was not the first to cross the finish line. The first to cross was American Fred Lorz, BUT he was disqualified for riding in a car from mile 9 to mile 20, and claimed he crossed the finish line as a joke on Hicks. Two American cheaters in one Olympics race who were never banned.
That drug would do nothing to help an 800m runner other than as a weight loss supplement, and there are other things people can take that are not carcinogenic. One explanation is some shady character sold it to Amos in which case Amos is definitely guilty. Zero chance his coach would be involved - the coach would know the dangers and know that all it does is help lose weight. You don't want an 800m runner to develop more slow twitch fibers, that would only reduce his performance. So this whole thing is very strange. Seems plausible that Amos may have panicked about his fitness and got it from someone who was as ignorant about the drug as Amos is.
I can't imagine being a coach - if one of your athletes does something stupid you risk getting tainted yourself. It *is* rather coincidental his coach only days ago announced a move to coach at a Canadian group.
I believe Amos was clean in 2012 and yes he was 18, he clearly looked like a 17 or 18 year old so those accusing him of age cheating are idiots. His missed tests apparently had to do with his use of marijuana when he was doing a lot of electronic music DJ work. Out of competition cannabis use is now permitted.
If he is guilty of doping I will be very disappointed. I have been a big believer in his talent, work ethic and fearless style of running. I believe his stagnation the past few years was partially due to filling out into his adult body, but also changing his running form had a big role. So many coaches think they know something about biomechanics when they actually understand next to nothing on the subject. I think Amos was hindered by excessive weight work along with changing his natural running style. Funny as it looked, his flailing style carried him to that 2012 London silver and great clocking at 18.
You should take up writing fiction. You have a talent for it.
Cardarine's insanely carcinogenic, this is insane. EPO can have side effects but the doctors should keep monitoring their blood so they should be fine, he'll end up with a tumor the size of his head
