How can that be when he is one of the leading anti doping officials.
And a bit rich coming from you of the ….. the bladder is part of the digestive system and all medical text books are wrong …. amongst your remarkable opinions😅
Liar soorer 400th sock puppet back again - and clearly as confused as ever.
Is he not a leading anti doping official ?
And are you still not posting on medical matters whilst thinking all the medical books are wrong?
This is even more proof that USADA sees its job to protect American athletes from doping band rather than trying to do anything about doping in the sport. When was the last time an American athlete served a ban from a positive USADA test? Genuinely don’t know that answer and am curious.
Corrections to the article that Jeff Manning needs to make:
Drop "accused" her of using performance enhancing drugs. There was a positive test. This is not an accusation.
who are the "Others" who believe her? family and friends? I mean of course her mom believes her. But I'd say if the "others" are fans, we clearly don't believe her. And "respected" coach is a bit of a stretch at this point.
Quote TT directly. The way it's worded suggests that TT is still very skeptical of Houlihan.
--She did not order a pork burrito. she ordered a carne asada burrito
--she also has not maintained that the burrito was the source of the nandrolone. She suggested that it might not actually be the case too.
--the two scenarios paragraph is ridiculous. There was a positive test. So either she is guilty on purpose or guilty on accident.
--It wasn't cranny she was with when she discovered the positive test, it was Schweitzer.
--She will be 32 when the ban lifts, not 33.
--Gatlin was hardly celebrated as a lovable legend.
Other thoughts on the article.
--Shelby made a lot of money by normal standards and asking for money through a go fund me was disgusting. She should have gotten a job to support herself instead. it's shameful that all she's done is DoorDash while also asking for money.
--all of this stupid "she loves to run! she likes the hurt" garbage, like doesn't every distance runner love to run? Along with the descriptions of her blue green eyes and tiny body, it just creates this idea that she is the victim of something and not the clear perpetrator. Why didn't manning talk about the athletes she stole titles from instead?
Sorry Mr. Tygart, There are not all that many good people in the world. One would have to believe you are one of these first. The odds of that are extremely low. Your two cents are worth just that.....or less.
Corrections to the article that Jeff Manning needs to make:
Drop "accused" her of using performance enhancing drugs. There was a positive test. This is not an accusation.
who are the "Others" who believe her? family and friends? I mean of course her mom believes her. But I'd say if the "others" are fans, we clearly don't believe her. And "respected" coach is a bit of a stretch at this point.
Quote TT directly. The way it's worded suggests that TT is still very skeptical of Houlihan.
--She did not order a pork burrito. she ordered a carne asada burrito
--she also has not maintained that the burrito was the source of the nandrolone. She suggested that it might not actually be the case too.
--the two scenarios paragraph is ridiculous. There was a positive test. So either she is guilty on purpose or guilty on accident.
--It wasn't cranny she was with when she discovered the positive test, it was Schweitzer.
--She will be 32 when the ban lifts, not 33.
--Gatlin was hardly celebrated as a lovable legend.
Other thoughts on the article.
--Shelby made a lot of money by normal standards and asking for money through a go fund me was disgusting. She should have gotten a job to support herself instead. it's shameful that all she's done is DoorDash while also asking for money.
--all of this stupid "she loves to run! she likes the hurt" garbage, like doesn't every distance runner love to run? Along with the descriptions of her blue green eyes and tiny body, it just creates this idea that she is the victim of something and not the clear perpetrator. Why didn't manning talk about the athletes she stole titles from instead?
There is no such think as a positive test in the Wada code.
Corrections to the article that Jeff Manning needs to make:
Drop "accused" her of using performance enhancing drugs. There was a positive test. This is not an accusation.
who are the "Others" who believe her? family and friends? I mean of course her mom believes her. But I'd say if the "others" are fans, we clearly don't believe her. And "respected" coach is a bit of a stretch at this point.
Quote TT directly. The way it's worded suggests that TT is still very skeptical of Houlihan.
--She did not order a pork burrito. she ordered a carne asada burrito
--she also has not maintained that the burrito was the source of the nandrolone. She suggested that it might not actually be the case too.
--the two scenarios paragraph is ridiculous. There was a positive test. So either she is guilty on purpose or guilty on accident.
--It wasn't cranny she was with when she discovered the positive test, it was Schweitzer.
--She will be 32 when the ban lifts, not 33.
--Gatlin was hardly celebrated as a lovable legend.
Other thoughts on the article.
--Shelby made a lot of money by normal standards and asking for money through a go fund me was disgusting. She should have gotten a job to support herself instead. it's shameful that all she's done is DoorDash while also asking for money.
--all of this stupid "she loves to run! she likes the hurt" garbage, like doesn't every distance runner love to run? Along with the descriptions of her blue green eyes and tiny body, it just creates this idea that she is the victim of something and not the clear perpetrator. Why didn't manning talk about the athletes she stole titles from instead?
There is no such think as a positive test in the Wada code.
You have positively failed a test, liar soorer - a basic intelligence test.
From the Oregonian --- "Travis Tygart, head of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, best known as the man who took down Lance Armstrong, told The Oregonian/OregonLive that he’s more skeptical of the rival doping agency and the way it handled this case than he is of Houlihan."
Does not explicitly say she is innocent but that's what the author implies.
Travis Tygart is right to be skeptical of the AIU's handling of this case, and more generally the WADA Code -- for these kinds of cases consistent with ingestion of small quantities from USDA approved food, the WADA Code is broken, and railroads athletes to 4-year bans as athletes are generally not experts in the complex nuances in the various meat industries.
The Oregonian needs to give the direct quote and the context, plus any follow-ups. The reason for this is, is that anyone who has ever listened to any interview with Tygart knows that he HATES the AIU because USADA does not hold a dominant position in the organisation. See episode 58 of the Clean Sport Collective podcast. Him saying that he is more skeptical of the AIU than he is of Houlihan is not even close to an endorsement of her innocence. It is an expression of his dissatisfaction with the AIU more than anything else.
And once again, I would remind everyone that Tygart is not some noble crusader pursuing justice, he's a careerist technocrat whose organisation has let doped runners continue to compete, and while he was at US swimming, he helped to cover up sex scandals. The Lance Armstrong conviction doesn't give him a free pass.
From the Oregonian --- "Travis Tygart, head of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, best known as the man who took down Lance Armstrong, told The Oregonian/OregonLive that he’s more skeptical of the rival doping agency and the way it handled this case than he is of Houlihan."
Does not explicitly say she is innocent but that's what the author implies.
Travis Tygart is right to be skeptical of the AIU's handling of this case, and more generally the WADA Code -- for these kinds of cases consistent with ingestion of small quantities from USDA approved food, the WADA Code is broken, and railroads athletes to 4-year bans as athletes are generally not experts in the complex nuances in the various meat industries.
And he wants the Code changed to give full recognition of human rights.
I see rekrunner is back to yet again provide the same points time and time again that have been disproven via the CAS case and basic human logic.
Let's be honest, man, have you actually read the full thing? Or did you read moultonk's word salad garbage on the pig industry and Twoggle's garbage document; both of which are cited as viable "sources" on Shelby's website?
Are you here to just play the semantics game once again and piss off the forums? Because you've contributed nothing productive since this case surfaced.
I see rekrunner is back to yet again provide the same points time and time again that have been disproven via the CAS case and basic human logic.
Let's be honest, man, have you actually read the full thing? Or did you read moultonk's word salad garbage on the pig industry and Twoggle's garbage document; both of which are cited as viable "sources" on Shelby's website?
Are you here to just play the semantics game once again and piss off the forums? Because you've contributed nothing productive since this case surfaced.
How does human logic deal with a whereabouts athlete with Nandrolone when Wada has published a whole range of new drugs available on the dark web.
Human logic suggests that a Code envisaged over a quarter of a century is no longer fit for purpose.
I see rekrunner is back to yet again provide the same points time and time again that have been disproven via the CAS case and basic human logic.
Let's be honest, man, have you actually read the full thing? Or did you read moultonk's word salad garbage on the pig industry and Twoggle's garbage document; both of which are cited as viable "sources" on Shelby's website?
Are you here to just play the semantics game once again and piss off the forums? Because you've contributed nothing productive since this case surfaced.
How does human logic deal with a whereabouts athlete with Nandrolone when Wada has published a whole range of new drugs available on the dark web.
Human logic suggests that a Code envisaged over a quarter of a century is no longer fit for purpose.
This dark web list published by Wada was removed from the Board by our leaders … why?
I see rekrunner is back to yet again provide the same points time and time again that have been disproven via the CAS case and basic human logic.
Let's be honest, man, have you actually read the full thing? Or did you read moultonk's word salad garbage on the pig industry and Twoggle's garbage document; both of which are cited as viable "sources" on Shelby's website?
Are you here to just play the semantics game once again and piss off the forums? Because you've contributed nothing productive since this case surfaced.
If people want to keep starting new threads, I am more than happy to provide some balance interfering with the echoes in the echo chamber.
The CAS case was bound by the constraints and limitations and ambiguities of the WADA Code. It does not attempt to disprove or address defects inherent to the Code itself.
Honestly, I have read all those sources, and so much more.
Tygart is right when he says the WADA Code needs reform, as its current form permits the AIU and the CAS to railroad innocent athletes unable to reverse engineer what ingredients were in their USDA approved meals, one month earlier, to 4-year bans, as if they were intentional cheats.
Neither the CAS case, which is completely subservient to the Code, nor basic human logic has disproved that.
Words mean what they mean, when not redefined by WADA against the interest of the athletes -- this is not "playing semantics". And I'm actually not all that bothered who gets pissed off. If others are unable to control their own emotions, that doesn't seem like that should be my problem.
But I'm curious -- has anyone contributed anything productive in this forum? I mostly see negative productivity which is hurting the sport.
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