This isn't true at all. there are doctors that WILL perform this procedure. It's evil personified to abort a child late stage. PURE EVIL.
It involves poking the skull of the child, killing it, and then grabbing pieces of it one by one (arms, head, legs etc).
The fact you think its acceptable for a women to have a choice to abort that late is evil.
But to the earlier question, if its ghastly and horrible to abort at 8.5 months....when is it....ok and why? Why is it morally wrong at 8.5 months but not at 3? I've never hear a pro choice person explain the logic. T
the logic is always...."its a womens choice".
Ok, so you are ok with abortion while the baby is in the birth canal? Are you really ok with that? Isn't it the womens choice?
I think you need to educate yourself a little about female anatomy. All births, miscarriages and aborted fetus leave through the birth canal. Theres no other way of the fetus leaving unless a C section is performed. How you think a "doctor" (note not a surgeon, no a doctor according to you) would perform an abortion on a baby actually in the birth canal would seem to defy laws of physics, particularly the law of gravity. What most well adjusted people are arguing over is the preservation of a woman's right to abortion before a certain cut off period, not the awful third world, backwards wholesale restriction of abortion that some US states seem to prefer to force upon the unfortunate women who have to live there.
You do realise that a lot of us in Europe do see the US as a bit of a third world country now? Its not really up there with most of Western Europe, you have terrible problems with crime, homelessness, drug use and a really low life expectancy.
Funny, I see Europe as just another third world poop hole that we Americans pay too much defending. I love the fact that the US isn’t Europe and I really don’t care what you think Europe’s opinion of us is.
You have a second rate mind. This is not over and in the end there are no winners here. You want babies to be born but you don’t care about them at all after that.
questions for abortion supporters in this thread.
at what point in a pregnancy is abortion WRONG and why?
Is 1 milisecond before it exits the birth canal and is born ok?
while in the birth canal?
right before labor pains?
whats your standard?
If the child is born 3 months premature and I intended on getting a late term abortion but couldn't perform in time can I "abort" the child during the delivery?
SMH.....this was covered 49 years ago as to when a life is able to sustain it self outside the womb. Try to keep up and actually read Roe vs. Wade
You do realize that it doesn't make it illegal it just leaves it up to states.
And then some 17 year old will run away to a sane state to get an abortion. The SCOTUS will have no choice to rule that it's legal and we'll be right back to where we started from.
The silver lining to all this is the ALL women and intelligent men vote Democrat from President down the ticket to dog catcher.
Only 1.5% of women getting abortions are victims of rape or incest. What's your excuse for the other 98.5% of abortions?
How about “they don’t want to”?
If you need my kidney to live, am I mandated to give it to you?
This decision has nothing to do with rights of the unborn. It’s about to sticking it to “loose” women, specifically the ones without the resources to go somewhere to have this done safely when this ruling becomes official.
I generally don't post in political threads but . . . the result is going to be that blue states (that already don't allow have laws on the books) are going to allow abortion on demand up until the due date -- including terminating viable fetuses. Red states are going to pass laws banning it after some early date with exceptions for the life/health of the mother, etc.
You do realize that it doesn't make it illegal it just leaves it up to states.
And then some 17 year old will run away to a sane state to get an abortion. The SCOTUS will have no choice to rule that it's legal and we'll be right back to where we started from.
The silver lining to all this is the ALL women and intelligent men vote Democrat from President down the ticket to dog catcher.
Lawmakers in Missouri are working on a statute that would penalize residents who go out of state for an abortion. You would think that would be unenforceable but here we are with the Texas law encouraging lawsuits still on the books.
I generally don't post in political threads but . . . the result is going to be that blue states (that already don't allow have laws on the books) are going to allow abortion on demand up until the due date -- including terminating viable fetuses. Red states are going to pass laws banning it after some early date with exceptions for the life/health of the mother, etc.
Red states are going to ban abortion outside of a very small window. Maybe like 10-15 days. The intention being that it will be banned by the time you find out your pregnant, or before you can make an appointment at an artificially limited number of clinics. Or they could just ban it outright unless there is a medical reason. I could see that too in places like Texas.
Not trying to morally grandstand but this is incredible news. We are going to save so many lives and prevent the slaughter of the innocent.
Abortion still happens in places where it’s banned. It’s just far less safe.
It’s no mystery how to reduce the incidence of abortion: comprehensive education, easy availability of multiple methods of birth control and robust resources for potential parents.
Democrats will fight desperately to butcher children in the womb and castrate them outside of the womb. These are absolute barbaric monsters.
Guarantees: this guy doesn't support paid family leave so parents can bond with their kids, doesn't support child tax credits or funding food stamp programs or universal Pre-K or subsidized school lunches. He doesn't give a sh*t about children. If he does have children of his own, he surely ran them off long ago. He just hates liberals and sympathizes with fetuses more than actual human beings to make himself feel morally superior. The GOP is now the party of rape and incest babies and they're coming for birth control next.
A woman has the right to decide what happens inside her womb until birth.
However there are no doctors that recommend late-stage abortions, say at 39 weeks, because at that stage the most effective way of removing a fetus from a womb is through birth.
So although women have a right to an abortion, if it's not medically advisable or even possible to abort a pregnancy, it won't happen.
This isn't true at all. there are doctors that WILL perform this procedure. It's evil personified to abort a child late stage. PURE EVIL.
It involves poking the skull of the child, killing it, and then grabbing pieces of it one by one (arms, head, legs etc).
The fact you think its acceptable for a women to have a choice to abort that late is evil.
But to the earlier question, if its ghastly and horrible to abort at 8.5 months....when is it....ok and why? Why is it morally wrong at 8.5 months but not at 3? I've never hear a pro choice person explain the logic. T
the logic is always...."its a womens choice".
Ok, so you are ok with abortion while the baby is in the birth canal? Are you really ok with that? Isn't it the womens choice?
Late-stage abortions are not carried out unless under exceptional circumstances. Doctors do not carry out abortions if the complexity is higher than proceeding with the pregnancy, which is almost always the case after 24 weeks. Women have a right to an abortion but if the doctor has assessed the complications too high, it doesn't happen.
You are not talking in reality, nobody has been aborted while in the birth canal. It isn't possible. Same for pregnancies at 39 weeks, the quickest and simplest way to end the pregnancy at that stage is to deliver the baby.
Only 1.5% of women getting abortions are victims of rape or incest. What's your excuse for the other 98.5% of abortions?
How about “they don’t want to”?
If you need my kidney to live, am I mandated to give it to you?
This decision has nothing to do with rights of the unborn. It’s about to sticking it to “loose” women, specifically the ones without the resources to go somewhere to have this done safely when this ruling becomes official.
I love how the pro-abortion argument always boils down to "we should be able to kill babies because they're an inconvenience to us." That's what "they don't want to" really means, and I'm glad you're revealing the motivation behind pro-choice. If it were just about protecting victims of rape and incest (which is a complete red herring argument on the part of pro-abortionists) then the pro-abortion side would be against 98.5% of abortions, but they're not. They're fighting for their right to live hedonistic lifestyles with no consequences because their lives are so sad and meaningless they couldn't imagine life without getting drunk and f*cking random strangers. It's so important to them that they're willing to kill children to do it. Really disgusting stuff.
Democrats will fight desperately to butcher children in the womb and castrate them outside of the womb. These are absolute barbaric monsters.
Guarantees: this guy doesn't support paid family leave so parents can bond with their kids, doesn't support child tax credits or funding food stamp programs or universal Pre-K or subsidized school lunches. He doesn't give a sh*t about children. If he does have children of his own, he surely ran them off long ago. He just hates liberals and sympathizes with fetuses more than actual human beings to make himself feel morally superior. The GOP is now the party of rape and incest babies and they're coming for birth control next.
He most certainly doesn't support any legislation that makes the biological father financially responsible for his child(ren) until they turn 18. Especially if that law allows the government to garnish his wages or seize personal assets to satisfy his obligations. It takes two to tango and conservatives conveniently excuse the sperm donor of any responsibility.
I think you need to educate yourself a little about female anatomy. All births, miscarriages and aborted fetus leave through the birth canal. Theres no other way of the fetus leaving unless a C section is performed. How you think a "doctor" (note not a surgeon, no a doctor according to you) would perform an abortion on a baby actually in the birth canal would seem to defy laws of physics, particularly the law of gravity. What most well adjusted people are arguing over is the preservation of a woman's right to abortion before a certain cut off period, not the awful third world, backwards wholesale restriction of abortion that some US states seem to prefer to force upon the unfortunate women who have to live there.
You do realise that a lot of us in Europe do see the US as a bit of a third world country now? Its not really up there with most of Western Europe, you have terrible problems with crime, homelessness, drug use and a really low life expectancy.
Funny, I see Europe as just another third world poop hole that we Americans pay too much defending. I love the fact that the US isn’t Europe and I really don’t care what you think Europe’s opinion of us is.
As a born and raised American living in Europe for a long time now, my standard of living ia higher and my freedoms are better protected in Europe than in in the us.
If you need my kidney to live, am I mandated to give it to you?
This decision has nothing to do with rights of the unborn. It’s about to sticking it to “loose” women, specifically the ones without the resources to go somewhere to have this done safely when this ruling becomes official.
I love how the pro-abortion argument always boils down to "we should be able to kill babies because they're an inconvenience to us." That's what "they don't want to" really means, and I'm glad you're revealing the motivation behind pro-choice. If it were just about protecting victims of rape and incest (which is a complete red herring argument on the part of pro-abortionists) then the pro-abortion side would be against 98.5% of abortions, but they're not. They're fighting for their right to live hedonistic lifestyles with no consequences because their lives are so sad and meaningless they couldn't imagine life without getting drunk and f*cking random strangers. It's so important to them that they're willing to kill children to do it. Really disgusting stuff.
No, we are fighting for the right of trump voters and the religious right to abort their babies.
In all seriousness, whats wrong with letting states restrict or allow abortions how they see fit?
blue states already ban guns (which is CLEARLY STATED in the constitution as a RIGHT). I can't buy certain weapons here in NY and I CANNOT for the life of me own and carry one in NYC.
A red state wants to ban abortions is an issue for liberals?
Another lie from some dumb ass redneck so called conservative. Please tell us which state banned guns?
As for abortions, if you don't want one, then don't have one. Or how about if you are raped by your uncle and become pregnant. According to you hicks, that is just too bad, you have to have the baby.
I live in a blue state and it’s possible to own basically ALL the guns including fully automatic machine guns. *Shoulder Shrug*
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