Shelby Houlihan runs 14:47 TT- says she's “gearing up for something fun in a few weeks”

Thankfully, usatf gives dopers jobs (Dennis Mitchell), and heaps praise (Gatlin) on the others. Makes total sense.

You're reading of the WAADC is missing out a crucial part - it says education only activity *organized* by a member federations, or member federations affiliated club, or activity involving athletes of member affiliated federations/clubs.

The general read on this is she can't train not just with anyone from BTC, but not even an 85 year old masters runner so long as they have a USATF membership or any other national federation membership. Cant use facilities supported by funds from USATF or affiliated club.

There's a couple of gaps in the rules here for Houlihan though. It does not say she can't go to a track at a time that it's accessible to the public and use it as a member of the public would. So she's fine there.

She could still feasibly be coached by Schumacher legally in my opinion, she would just have to pay him for private coaching services. I used to be coached by a div1 track coach though wasn't on his team; I paid him to coach me privately on the side and so a lot of my workouts and how my training was structured looked the same as what that NCAA team did but 1) I clearly wasn't on the team and 2) as I was paying him, I wasn't just freeloading off of the team. To be clear I wasn't serving a ban, but I don't see how what I was doing wouldn't be allowed under the code so if Houlihan did something similar I don't see how that wouldn't be allowed either. It's kind of a loophole, but these rules are pretty vague. The key word "activity" isn't even properly defined.

The big piece where I am curious how she is managing is pacers. Presumably she isn't running these times completely solo and has at least one pacer, probably male, helping her. Per the rules the pacer wouldn't able to be a registered member of USATF (or other federation), so she has to either have found someone fast enough to pace her that also isn't doing any sanctioned races otherwise or she is breaking the rules on that front.

The flawed doping control system would still remain.

It's just sad and very pathetic. She clearly doped and the pathology of the denial will forever haunt her. She should have did a mea culpa and been as honest as possible. People would have at least given her some empathy if so. Now she has really backed herself into a corner and it's only getting worse. Burn in the flames you created. Sad.

Where is it that she can’t run with others not under any organised by USATF organised type activity.

Bit of an extension of her going to a commercial gym with a track mate.

If there is a problem I have not grasped then she could be paced by a retired male.I think you have made this point.

Read 10.14.1 of the WADA Code and nothing to stop training with mates.

She sends a few messages out to say “ 10 k through the Bliggs Woods at 10.10 on Tues.”

Curiosity - she can now take all the drugs available and see just how fast she can go without pesky doping controls. She probably enjoys training, especially since the peds help her recover pretty quick and has nothing better to do. Or she makes money off social media and needs to do this stuff to keep that revenue stream alive.

What if she did not dope but it was via some form of accident.

She can’t pull up if she still wants to compete at some point.

Pill up

10.14 Status during Ineligibility or Provisional Suspension
10.14.1 Prohibition against participation during Ineligibility or Provisional Suspension:
(a) No Athlete or other Person who has been declared Ineligible or is subject to a Provisional Suspension may, during a period of Ineligibility or Provisional Suspension, participate in any capacity in a Competition or activity (other than authorised anti-doping Education or rehabilitation programs) authorised or organised by any Signatory, Signatory’s member organisation, or a club or other member organisation of a Signatory’s member organisation, or in Competitions authorised or organised by any professional league or any international or national level event organisation or any elite or national-level sporting activity funded by a governmental agency.
[Comment to Rule 10.14.1(a): For example, subject to Rule 10.14.2 below, Ineligible Athletes cannot participate in a training camp, exhibition or practice organised by their Member or a club that is a member of that Member or that is funded by a governmental agency. Further, an Ineligible Athlete may not compete in a non-Signatory professional league, Competitions organised by a non-Signatory International Event organisation or a non-Signatory national-level Competition organisation without triggering the Consequences set forth in Rule 10.14.3. The term 'activity' also includes, for example, administrative activities, such as serving as an official, director, officer, employee, or volunteer of the organisation described in this Rule. Ineligibility imposed in one sport must also be recognised by other sports (see Rule 17.1, Automatic Binding Effect of Decisions). An Athlete or other Person serving a period of Ineligibility is prohibited from coaching or serving as an Athlete Support Person in any other capacity at any time during the period of Ineligibility, and doing so could also result in a violation of Rule 2.10 by another Athlete. Any performance standard accomplished during a period of Ineligibility shall not be recognised by World Athletics or its Members for any purpose.]

nike coach and Shelby might want to read this document

I swear to god, our conscious uncoupling from a. drug cheat has never been so difficult.

Regina Jacobs, caught? Gone.

Remember Deeja Youngquist? You don't. There's a reason for that.

Lisa Stublic? The Croatian? Yeah. Done and done.

Ruth Jebet? Jemima Sumgong? Rita Jeptoo? Oh what am I saying? Those are just nameless faceless Kenyans who don't have Harry Potter tattoos or cool vans so they aren't really human to us anyway. By the way? Did anyone locate Ruth Jebet, the teenager who ran for Bahrain under sketchy conditions? Is she...okay?

But here we are in the age of social media and Shelby Houligan can't accept the Houli-ban. And apparently neither can the gods at letsrun.

There was a doping case in Australia involving a swimmer in recent years where the swimmer was not allowed to attend any pool for training at the same time as any other swimmer/training group/coach registered with the national federation. The only way she could have someone to train with was to train with someone retired from the sport entirely.

Yes, but running allows much much more flexibility.

Read the Wada code at the para cited and tell me why she can’t run with others if not USATF organised.

The WA rules in no way stop her from running with someone in a non USATF organised run.

No different from meeting a chum in a commercial gym to train together.

Someone raised the point that the coach could coach in a non USATF organised way and I think this is a very interesting concept.

The most blatant reason is none of the people you mentioned had the resources to fight this like Bowerman and Houlihan do. This is the most influential and powerful team in distance running right now and they are rubbing everyone's noses in the fact that they're going to do whatever they want when it comes to Houlihan. To me, that is the reason that we should continue harping on this- her coaches continue to coach her, blatantly violating WADA code, while coaching all the other athletes on their roster. They continue to act like this was all a giant injustice and that it is Shelby that is the victim here. The amount of gaslighting coming from the Bowerman camp with this whole thing is unbelievable. So many of their fans bought this big lie, including the owners of this site. Watch the Shalane interview and tell me that we all should just quit talking about this.

This needs more visibility, and quite honestly the Shalane interview and the fact that Shelby continues to receive Bowerman coaching deserves it's own thread. What a scam.

Tons of burritos…

She is not guilty. Simple. I can't explain it, but I know it.