“Why aren’t we using a drug that everyone is already using?”
Jesus this guy is an idiot.
“Why aren’t we using a drug that everyone is already using?”
Jesus this guy is an idiot.
josh1988 wrote:
“Why aren’t we using a drug that everyone is already using?”
Jesus this guy is an idiot.
Idiot and a loser. Can you believe this is his full-time job? THIS, posting trolling trash on a dumb MF message board
Jesus
This is definitely old news. It's a recent story from the WSJ because that's a financial journal: they published the story as a cost comparison with the new Pzifer antiviral. It's not a cutting-edge medicine publication.
Fluvoxamine is already widely used for COVID, although study results are actually mixed. But it's being used enough that my wholesaler has some strengths and formulations on market allocation.
It's funny how this is some big conspiracy discovery to some, but to others actually in a healthcare profession, it's common knowledge. I think there is so much information and misinformation about COVID available for consumption that some things get lost in the shuffle.
rojo wrote:
yiuk wrote:
The intellectual arrogance required to think you could open your laptop and find a therapy for your buddy's covid.
I please guilty to be arrogant.
Now let's talk about the distinction between merited and unmerited intellectual arrogance 🤦
rojo wrote:
yiuk wrote:
The intellectual arrogance required to think you could open your laptop and find a therapy for your buddy's covid. That's what doctors and public health professionals are for. Shows what you think of their expertise, and how you overvalue your intelligence in domains you have no clue about.
I please guilty to be arrogant.
What?
yiuk wrote:
rojo wrote:
I please guilty to be arrogant.
Now let's talk about the distinction between merited and unmerited intellectual arrogance 🤦
Rojo is VERY stupid
Michael Smores wrote:
rojo wrote:
I please guilty to be arrogant.
What?
Yeah Rojo, you keep bringing this up about Fauci even though it’s been almost two years since he ADMITTED to being wrong and changing his mind after learning new facts.
When have you ever admitted to being wrong? Hell, when have you ever worked a day in your life?
So STFU already.
colder and wiser wrote:
fisky wrote:
There are over two dozen off-label drugs and over-the-counter supplements that have shown promise in preventing or reducing the severity of Covid.
They have been deliberately suppressed.
The double standard you have for vaccine efficacy and safety on the one hand, including for long term effects, versus your promotion of drugs that are little tested, untested or tested and found wanting on the other hand, is really striking. You want to see long-term data on vaccination after a more than a year and billions of administered doses, and you're ready to believe any low-quality, unpublished study based on shaky data that attributes fantasies like hundreds of thousands of deaths to vaccination - but you're happy to promote two dozen drugs based on an anonymous website.
Who is it who has suppressed these supposed treatments? How did they manage that all over the world? In every media outlet? And affecting doctors AND pharmaceutical companies AND insurers?
Doctors want to treat patients. They have the training and the experience to evaluate medical studies. Do you really think they're all just standing by while their patients die so they can collect pharma kickbacks? Insurance companies are gigantic. If they had a way to treat Covid-19 for $5, do you think the insurance companies would willingly pay out many times more? Then there are all those PhD scientists working for Big Pharma. You seriously think all they do is suppress cheap and effective treatments so they can sell expensive useless treatments? That's an interesting view of humanity you've got there. You're reaching loony toons levels of conspiracy thinking here, and it's sad to see.
The rare reasonable post.
wejo wrote:
I think the issue is small studies can show promising results but they should fast track bigger studies with this
Agree. Fluvoxamine is one of three drugs being trialed in a large NIH funded study called ACTIV-6 that has been going on since June.
https://ncats.nih.gov/news/releases/2021/large-clinical-trial-to-study-repurposed-drugs-to-treat-covid-19-symptomsAlso, as a PSA for Rojo's friend: I believe the trial is still actively enrolling (i.e. looking for potential patients). I am not personally involved in the trial but my institution's clinical trials center (run by some of my colleagues) is doing the data coordination.
https://activ6study.org/fisky wrote:
fisky wrote:
Rojo, since your friend might not have access to a doctor who would write an off-label prescription for fluvoxamine, you should look into OTC supplements. There are several with almost no risk and some potential for help.
I would suggest...
Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop
Quercetin: 2 capsules/day
Zinc
Melatonin
Nigella Sativa
Gargle with recommended mouthwash
Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray
Pepcid AC (famotidine)
Here is the source for these recommendations including dosage, except for Famotidine. It is the second link below. The referenced study used 80mg/day, which would be 4 Pepcid AC tabs/day.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdfhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299656/By the way, I have early signs of covid starting yesterday afternoon... congestion, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, and a fever. I am doing everything on this list, except Pepcid AC and Nigella Sativa, which I ordered for express shipping to my house today. My cost for everything on this list was about $100 with the most expensive being Pepcid AC and Quercetin.
By the way, I'm 74 so I'm in the high-risk category. Yesterday and last night, my symptoms were scratchy throat, cough, sinus drainage, minor aches, and a fever of 2.5 above my normal temperature. In addition to the above list of supplements, I'm taking aspirin for the fever and pseudoephedrine for the sinus drainage. Obviously, I'm not running and I'm self-isolating. Fever now is 2.3 above normal. SpO2 is normal at 98.
Live close to pfizer testing region and headquarters so lots of covid alternative drug tests have been done nearby. This one included. Biggest issue was it killed testosterone and sex drive significantly for a significant time afterward (over 30 days).
Deep thoughts... wrote:
colder and wiser wrote:
The double standard you have for vaccine efficacy and safety on the one hand, including for long term effects, versus your promotion of drugs that are little tested, untested or tested and found wanting on the other hand, is really striking. You want to see long-term data on vaccination after a more than a year and billions of administered doses, and you're ready to believe any low-quality, unpublished study based on shaky data that attributes fantasies like hundreds of thousands of deaths to vaccination - but you're happy to promote two dozen drugs based on an anonymous website.
Who is it who has suppressed these supposed treatments? How did they manage that all over the world? In every media outlet? And affecting doctors AND pharmaceutical companies AND insurers?
Doctors want to treat patients. They have the training and the experience to evaluate medical studies. Do you really think they're all just standing by while their patients die so they can collect pharma kickbacks? Insurance companies are gigantic. If they had a way to treat Covid-19 for $5, do you think the insurance companies would willingly pay out many times more? Then there are all those PhD scientists working for Big Pharma. You seriously think all they do is suppress cheap and effective treatments so they can sell expensive useless treatments? That's an interesting view of humanity you've got there. You're reaching loony toons levels of conspiracy thinking here, and it's sad to see.
The rare reasonable post.
The OP in this quote here read a book by RFK Jr about Fauci and is now basically convinced that the Deep State is just a wing of Big Pharma.
Sadly I’ve found that if you confront these people and say “so you think tens of thousands of doctors and scientists are in on a massive murderous conspiracy, OR they are so dumb they are being led blindly down the path of murder despite decades of training” they will answer “yes.”
I feel like this article was written explicitly for Rojo:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/opinion/dyor-do-your-own-research.html
Deep thoughts... wrote:
Do you really think they're all just standing by while their patients die so they can collect pharma kickbacks?
They're not just standing by, they are actively killing people to get usual ultra high exorbitant feels plus the bonuses that they're not getting for killing people in incubators and by putting "with" covid on everyone's death certificate, even though they're not actually testing anyone for a virus, and in spite of the fact that there is no reliable test for a virus.
Sure, and they've been doing the same things for decades, killing people with their treatments and blaming it on pneumonia or whatever. This is nothing new! It has been happening for quite a long time and now over the last two years they've accelerated that same process that they've been using for quite a long time.
Additionally, where do you think they absorbed all their dogma?? In big pharma medical schools where they are taught to do what they're told, to not think and to not ask any questions - so that's what they're continuing to do now.
a fan's notes wrote:
I feel like this article was written explicitly for Rojo:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/opinion/dyor-do-your-own-research.html
As psychological studies have repeatedly shown, when it comes to technical and complex issues like climate change and vaccine efficacy, novices who do their own research often end up becoming more misled than informed — the exact opposite of what D.Y.O.R. is supposed to accomplish.
Whether you want to call that a conspiracy or a standard operating practice or whatever, it is what it is.
Harambe wrote:
the Deep State is just a wing of Big Pharma.
Or visa versa, big pharma is a wing of the deep state. In either case, it is what it is.
Big pharma is the biggest and most powerful lobby in the world, and is where most of the politicians make their big bucks.
75 still alive wrote:
plus the bonuses that they're now getting
Correction of typo.
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